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matt in PA

06-11-2004 08:14:54




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Mark,
Thanks again for the continued information.
The belts on the Hesston have surely stretched, but I think most of the slack could be taken out of them if the tension arm was all the way back. As it is now, the arm still has about 8-9 inches to go back, but the springs won't pull it any farther. I would sure like to try different springs before we purchase new belts. We don't bale that much hay, so it is tough to justify $1000. Worse comes to worse, we will continue to bale with the old NH square baler.
I checked with a couple of the local scrap yards, and they don't have any of the springs I am looking for. Any ideas where to look?
I probably won't get back on this site until Monday. Going away from the dang hay for the weekend.

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txblu

06-14-2004 05:41:55




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 Re: Hesston 5800 in reply to matt in PA, 06-11-2004 08:14:54  
Monday am. I'm back.

My local ag supply store has the crimper for belt repair. It's around $50. Put the hogring hootus in it and give her a squeeze. Can cut belt with box opener but cut is perfectly square and Vee the corners of the pulled end (to keep the belt from hanging on something and pulling apart).

So take the belt off and lay it on the floor and with a 50 or 100ft tape, measure off 480" Whack her off and install the clip.

Don't forget what I said about the safety pins. They could be installed and causing all this frustration.

I don't know your history with this thing so I don't know how they might have been accidently installed or deliberately and accidently forgotten.

Mark

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matt

06-14-2004 05:54:41




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 Re: Re: Hesston 5800 in reply to txblu, 06-14-2004 05:41:55  
had a look for those safety pins yesterday, but couldn't find them, nor where they should have been installed. Must be looking in the wrong place.
I am going to start shopping around for a belt repair tool.
Thanks for all your advice.

Matt



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txblu

06-14-2004 07:57:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Hesston 5800 in reply to matt, 06-14-2004 05:54:41  
Raise the gate. Stand behind the tire and look at the baler. Look at the rear flange of the baler where the gate touches it. As you run your eyes up that interface, there is nothing till you get to what I am talking about. It's up where the belts are and is a 3/4 to 1" dia hole looking right at you, about 2" aft of the flange I mentioned. There is one on each side.

If the pin is in it you'll see the end of it hanging down (round rod bent into an ell). Pin is about 5" long and ell about 3. When the gate closes, it contacts the flange mentioned on the baler proper, and keep the rollers from going all the way forward, hence releasing tension on the belts.

Storage is about eyeball high (vertical hole) between the aforementioned flange and tire; one on each side; just a hole in the frame.

Mark

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txblu

06-11-2004 09:28:17




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 Re: Hesston 5800 in reply to matt in PA, 06-11-2004 08:14:54  
Thinking aloud. The springs are to put pressure on the roll. The bigger it gets, the more the pressure. I'm going to re read your first post and get back.

I'm back. I was going to tell you to adjust tension on the spring mount but you said all of it was out already.

You didn't indicate that your problem was starting the bale or getting a dense, full sized roll.
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You didn't by chance leave your safety pins in did you? ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- There's one on each side which has a hole to store it in. The chamber is opened and the pin is inserted horizontally into a little hole about half way up the side of the chamber at the interface of the main bailer and the chamber door. Nothing happens mechanically, but when the chamber is closed, the belts have no tension; they are floppy.

When they said safety pins, I thought they meant the chamber door would be jammed so that it couldn't fall. All that happens is the belts are loose so that you could crawl out if you got caught.....as long as your legs weren't broken by the door falling (if you had a gross hyd leak).

Since tension is a function of belt length, I had a thought and that was to deliberately shorten the belts to less than the original length....if the springs are truly shot.

Check your safety pins. Let me supply you with the OEM belt length. Pull a belt off and measure it. We'll go from there. If the belt is really too long, it might solve the problem; maybe to the point that you would have to put some length back into the spring adjustment.

Mark

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txblu

06-11-2004 09:35:04




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 Re: Re: Hesston 5800 in reply to txblu, 06-11-2004 09:28:17  
I just checked Ex-Cel on the web and they state the length is 480" (40.0'). They only show width's of 4" and 10" belts on the web site. My belts are 5" and there are 8 of them. The 40 foot length sounds right.

Mark



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