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Tom in southern

06-08-2004 10:14:05




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Gents, am new to this forum and am looking for some advice. I have decided to do a small amount of haying for 4-H animals and local horse owners.

I am looking at a NH 489 haybine in good/v. good condition with a newer (2-year-old) "wobble box". Asking price is $3500 - fair price? Was told the former owner who moved out of state has about $4500 tied up in it.

Other items are:

NH 68 Superhayliner baler, good/v. good condition, great paint, was told it only missed about 1 bale out of 300. The asking price is $500.

Gehl haybine, looks decent but sitting in the tall weeds can't see much, looked like it had steel rollers, will get another look at it this week. Owner wants it gone for $100. He uses other equipment and got this in a package purchase deal so has no knowledge of shape, ability, or condition. I figure it's a worthy gamble.

JD 4-bar rake, older but has most of its paint, $100. What do I look for on a hay rake?

Would most like anyone's thoughts on these prices (especially the NH 489) and what I should be looking for as far as wear, misalignment, etc.

Thanks, and hope your haying weather is dry!

Tom

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cockshuttguy

06-13-2004 17:01:48




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 Re: Need guidance on NH hay equipment in reply to Tom in southern Michigan, 06-08-2004 10:14:05  
I'd buy the 68 baler. Don't know the history of the others.



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Tom in Michigan

06-11-2004 10:15:57




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 Re: Need guidance on NH hay equipment in reply to Tom in southern Michigan, 06-08-2004 10:14:05  
Guys, thanks for the opinions. It will be quite helpful!



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INCase

06-09-2004 05:20:40




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 Re: Need guidance on NH hay equipment in reply to Tom in southern Michigan, 06-08-2004 10:14:05  
for $100 the Gehl unit would be worth a try... new Gehl's work ok don't know about older units. The hyd cylinder and PTO are worth well over $100 alone let alone the scrap value of the unit is probably at least $100.... if you're just doing "4-H" hay the cheaper line are probably the way to go.. where are you in "southern" MI? I work in ThreeRivers.



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Richard

06-09-2004 04:11:33




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 Re: Need guidance on NH hay equipment in reply to Tom in southern Michigan, 06-08-2004 10:14:05  
I have a NH 489 Haybine that has mowed thousands of acres. I had to replace the wobble box last year. The cost just to buy the wobble box was $825 dollars. Then if you can't do the work yourself you can tie up more money for a mechanic.This haybine will most likely last you for years as it was a very reliable unit.Good luck!!



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RayP(MI)

06-08-2004 18:56:44




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 Re: Need guidance on NH hay equipment in reply to Tom in southern Michigan, 06-08-2004 10:14:05  
Wife bought a 268 Hayliner for $750 - Little scruffy around the edges, but bales up a storm. Out-worked son and I today. We're whupped! Missed no bales today, two last field, when twine balled up in knotter.



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JMS/MN

06-08-2004 13:54:17




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 Re: Need guidance on NH hay equipment in reply to Tom in southern Michigan, 06-08-2004 10:14:05  
Gehl moco was never much to begin with.(Haybine is a trademark of New Holland). On the JD rake, check for extra holes on the circles that the bars mount on- some are drilled for 5 bars- you can buy an extra bar and teeth and remount existing ones to get a 5 bar rake. Well worth the $100 if you can switch it. NH 68 is a very old baler- you could probably buy something 20 years newer for the same money, but each one depends on condition. Check the price on a new wobble box- the asking price for the machine might seem very reasonable with that newer box on it. Probably most of a grand in that alone. NH makes great haying equipment.

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Big Jim

06-08-2004 12:06:50




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 Re: Need guidance on NH hay equipment in reply to Tom in southern Michigan, 06-08-2004 10:14:05  
I would have to agree with Paul, sounds in the ball park. I would look closer at that Gehl haybine. $100 is cheap, but I would be suspicious of a price that low, you could be bring home a piece of junk that's nothing but trouble. Of course, with scrap prices high, maybe you could get your money back out of it.



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paul

06-08-2004 10:38:15




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 Re: Need guidance on NH hay equipment in reply to Tom in southern Michigan, 06-08-2004 10:14:05  
Sounds about right. I'd rather get a sickle bar mower in addition to the NH Haybine. Sounds like the Gehl is more fuss than it would be worth. Not that $100 is much money & you can turn it into $600 if nothing major is wrong with it, just for a haying operation.....

A 5 bar rake like a NH 56 / 256 is top notch. A 4 bar rake will do you fine, but I'll guess the 4-bar you found has a straight rear axle, doesn't follow the ground as well, & 5 bars is better than 4. Price sounds about right tho, a 5-bar will be $300 - $1500.

All in all, sight unseen from here, everything sounds like it's in the ballpark.

--->Paul

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