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What are these plows for???

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Matt

06-06-2004 20:27:55




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Went to a local antique tractor show briefly this morning (in Woodstock, CT) but had to leave to attend the dedication of a new fire station for the other district in my town...so no opportunity to ask the owners!

Two of the tractors had two-bottom plows mounted, the right bottom throwing right (like normal), the left bottom though threw left! Enough space between them you'd have a wide, unplowed space in the middle...looked just about the width of the plow in fact.

I can't quite figure it the why for these or how they'd be used -- it would seem like you'd just be pushing more and more already plowed dirt if you always went in the same direction...maybe you turn around at the end of the field and go back down the row in the opposite direction to make a raised bed???

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Allan in NE

06-07-2004 02:57:12




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 Re: What are these plows for??? in reply to Matt, 06-06-2004 20:27:55  
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Matt,

Handyman is right.

You were probably looking at one of the first one bottom bi-directional plows. These preceeded the tumble plows, later came the spinners.

These types of plows were almost a must when plowing on flood irrigated land where the finished work had to be as flat as a table top (no dead furrows). Also, the operator had to be very careful not to leave any "holes".

Having been raised around these things, I can't see the point in using a one-way plow. Seems like there is an awful lot of dead time running back and forth from one land to the next.

Allan

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Hal

06-07-2004 08:13:26




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 Re: Re: What are these plows for??? in reply to Allan in NE, 06-07-2004 02:57:12  
The main drawback of a 2-way plow is its weight. A lot of tractors that can handle a three or four-bottom regular plow would have trouble with the weight of the same size rollover plow. Also I notice that with the 2-way plow the wheel not in the furrow tends to flatten any covercrop or straw residue in one direction; then when you turn around and come back the plow tries to stand the straw back up again, causing plugging. But I like the fact that you don't end up with a dead furrow in the middle. They are also popular where you want to plow and immediately follow with a planter, you don't have to wait until the whole field is finished plowing.

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Hal

06-07-2004 07:58:42




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 Re: Re: What are these plows for??? in reply to Allan in NE, 06-07-2004 02:57:12  
The main drawback of a 2-way plow is its weight. A lot of tractors that can handle a three or four-bottom regular plow would have trouble with the weight of the same size rollover plow. Also I notice that with the 2-way plow the wheel not in the furrow tends to flatten any covercrop or straw residue in one direction; then when you turn around and come back the plow tries to stand the straw back up again, causing plugging. But I like the fact that you don't end up with a dead furrow in the middle. They are also popular where you want to plow and immediately follow with a planter, you don't have to wait until the whole field is finished plowing.

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Matt

06-07-2004 07:46:07




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 Re: Re: What are these plows for??? in reply to Allan in NE, 06-07-2004 02:57:12  
Yep, them are those!

Now I understand what they do -- I'm used to the dairy farmers around here plowing, and it's pretty much just in a circle. Thinking about it as plowing straight lines this makes more sense!

No irrigated land out here (except for the occassional vegetable or nursery location).



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Allan in NE

06-07-2004 07:54:28




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 Re: Re: Re: What are these plows for??? in reply to Matt, 06-07-2004 07:46:07  
Matt,

The very first "paying" job I ever had was running one of these in a two bottom version for my uncle...that is to say, it had 'four' bottoms hangging off the back of his old JD.

I ran the thing for 3 full days and made $21. Thought I was rich!.

Yesterday I was looking at a field which has been plowed for the past 100 years in a circle by the use of one way plows. It is shaped like a 'dish'....low in the center and high on the outsides. :>)

Have a good one,

Allan

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Handyman

06-06-2004 20:55:40




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 Re: What are these plows for??? in reply to Matt, 06-06-2004 20:27:55  
You were looking at what are one bottom two way plows you would plow one way with one bottom in the ground then when you turn around you would drop the other plow and plow in the other direction this eliminates the need for a dead furrow in the middle of the field



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