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5 bottom pull type plow

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Rob Lembke

06-06-2004 17:46:15




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Im looking for a 5 bottom pull type plow. Not really picky on brand, prefer JD, IH, or Case. This is only because those dealers are close to me for parts. I would buy any plow if the price and condition of it were good. Example, AC model 85, Case model A, etc. Thanks in advance, Rob.

PS, I plan to pull it with a 650 IH.




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jed

06-07-2004 06:03:56




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 Re: 5 bottom pull type plow in reply to Rob Lembke, 06-06-2004 17:46:15  
Rob, I recently ran across a set of Oliver 5 bottoms. The guy pulled them with a 450 JD crawler. They were nice, but I never pursued it because they were more than I could handle.
We are in Western, Pa. and if you are interested I can get a phone number.



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marlowe

06-06-2004 18:35:13




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 Re: 5 bottom pull type plow in reply to Rob Lembke, 06-06-2004 17:46:15  
i am not a IH person BUT a 5 bottom and a 650????i think the only way your going to pull it is out of the ground?or is a 650 that much bigger then a 560



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720Deere

06-07-2004 05:21:05




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 Re: Re: 5 bottom pull type plow in reply to marlowe, 06-06-2004 18:35:13  
I'm not really an IH man either, but I can tell you that a properly tuned 650 is a beast! It is very comparable to a JD 820/830 or 3020 hp wise. It will produce much more work than a 3020. It probably compares closer to a 4010.

The hp rating of the 650 was close to the 560, but most 650 diesels have been turned up and run closer to 80 hp. It also weighs about 8600 lbs with no ballast.



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720Deere

06-07-2004 08:00:07




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 Re: Re: Re: 5 bottom pull type plow in reply to 720Deere, 06-07-2004 05:21:05  
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I didn't mean to stir up the age old how many hp per plow and what can pull what argument. These things tend to get pretty heated and have pretty much been run into the ground. I simply wanted marlowe to understand that the 650 is much more tractor than the 560.

If you were to make a living farming with such equipment, you would not plow with 5 bottoms and a 650. Plowing as most of us see it these days (just for fun and a good tractor workout) is usually done with bigger plows than the tractor pulling them would have normally used. We rarely plow old sod ground or extremely dry ground for plow days. The ground is usually stalk ground that was tilled the year before if not disced within the last week.

There is no doubt in my mind that a 650 would pull 5-14s in these conditions, but would probably struggle at times with 4-14s or 16s in dry alfalfa ground that has not been plowed in years.

This discussion raged on for a while at Johnnypopper.com about a 80/820/830. Hopefully the picture posts. If not, there are three of them in the tractor photos. Somebody sent me these pictures from their plow day.

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paul

06-07-2004 05:34:23




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 Re: Re: Re: 5 bottom pull type plow in reply to 720Deere, 06-07-2004 05:21:05  
In my soils, an 80 hp tractor is barely a 4-16 plow puller. Wouldn't even dream of trying 5, and a 3 would be more realistic in alfalfa & other tough going.

--->Paul



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Allan

06-07-2004 05:53:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 5 bottom pull type plow in reply to paul, 06-07-2004 05:34:23  
Hi Paul,

Same here. We figure 100hp for a 4/18 @ roughly 4 1/2 mph.

Allan



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rustyfarmall

06-07-2004 04:53:07




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 Re: Re: 5 bottom pull type plow in reply to marlowe, 06-06-2004 18:35:13  
A 650 is the later version of the original W-9, it is a standard tread tractor, with more power and weight than a 560.



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Allan

06-07-2004 03:16:36




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 Re: Re: 5 bottom pull type plow in reply to marlowe, 06-06-2004 18:35:13  
Marlowe,

A lot the dryland guys only plow 5 or 6 inches deep.

Allan



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