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IH McCormick 46 Baler

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Steve(OR)

06-03-2004 10:59:08




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I've got an old #46 baler that I'm trying to get functional again. Can anyone describe what happens in the tying cycle? Specifically when does the twine get cut and how does the knot get removed from the bill hooks? I've got it to make a knot without any hay in the bale chamber, but when you pull the twine (as I assume a bale would do) the knot just tightens up on the bill hook. Is the knot removed as the next bale pushes the newly tied bale on thru the chamber? Is the bill hook released in some way or is the tug from the bale enough?

Also is there a way to tell if the position of the twine disk is correct before a tying cycle? I can see how to change the position but the operators manual seems to think this is beyond anyone but an experienced serviceman, and it will cost more than the baler is worth for a service call.

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Oregon Jeff

09-09-2004 11:20:12




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 Re: IH McCormick 46 Baler in reply to Steve(OR), 06-03-2004 10:59:08  
Steve,
Just checking to see if you got your 46 running.
I am just south of Portland and am looking for a parts 46. Or a good source for parts.
Currently I am looking for needles.



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mike

06-07-2004 21:09:16




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 Re: IH McCormick 46 Baler in reply to Steve(OR), 06-03-2004 10:59:08  
I run a #56 which is basicly a bigger version the twine knives being sharp is very important get the servicemans handbook for the knotters it has good desc. and pics of all the parts and how to set them up as for speed i run mine about 500 pto speed or it will misstie (and yes it is probably from wear this thing is about 40 years old)and i have found that twine brand makes a huge difference from 1 in 500 breaks to 6 out of 7 broke (not good ) if you have specific ? email me and ill try to answer it good luck and dont give up on the old ih . mike

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Leroy

06-06-2004 18:36:54




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 Re: IH McCormick 46 Baler in reply to Steve(OR), 06-03-2004 10:59:08  
If it won't work at the 540 RPM recemonded then there is something else wrong, always ran ours at normal PTO speed and had a bale thrower on, If would have tried running it that slow the thrower would not work, the problem in tying a lot of times can be traced to worn slides on the plunger and they are welded on, still have some books



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cockshuttguy

06-06-2004 17:53:20




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 Re: IH McCormick 46 Baler in reply to Steve(OR), 06-03-2004 10:59:08  
Yes, it is probably not worth a service call.
I'd get a NH 273 or something in that era and be freer of the tying problems. I had a 273 and it hardly ever missed a bale in thousands per year. Maybe seven times a season, basically due to poor splicing between balls.



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Delbert

06-03-2004 18:34:58




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 Re: IH McCormick 46 Baler in reply to Steve(OR), 06-03-2004 10:59:08  
Steve don,t run this baler to fast. I use a m farmall on mine and run the tractor about a third of the way open or just a fast idle. Run it much faster and it won,t tie. About 16 strokes per bale as for the tying it ties and the next bale pushes it off the knotters. If it doesn,t cut the twine cleanly or square the twine knife needs to be sharpened. Or if it has the newer knifes the blade needs to be replaced. As far as being out of time unless the gears are badly woren there,s not much to get out if time. Use 9000 twine and not run more than half throttle should bale lots of hay. And if it gets to missing bales clean the the trash around the knotters will help.

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Tim IN

06-03-2004 11:28:02




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 Re: IH McCormick 46 Baler in reply to Steve(OR), 06-03-2004 10:59:08  
The turning of the billhook should result in the knife cutting the lower twine piece. The force of the next bale being completed should pull the knots from the billhooks. I recommend the IH Baler Knotter guide from Binderbooks.



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Steve(OR)

06-03-2004 11:31:34




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 Re: Re: IH McCormick 46 Baler in reply to Tim IN, 06-03-2004 11:28:02  
Thanks!



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