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JIM

05-31-2004 18:50:49




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OK, I I WANT TO TRY A WHEEL RAKE, WHY ARE THEY NOT VERY EASY TO FIND? IS IT THE PRICE? OR IS IT WHAT ALOT OF PEOPLE HAS SAID THEY DONT WORK? LOOKING FOR 3 PT MOUNT.




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Rick

06-02-2004 09:48:16




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 Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to JIM, 05-31-2004 18:50:49  
Jim: We use the wheel rakes and get along fine with them. IF they are set right they will clean the ground better than basket rakes in our experience with them. They will sweep the ground clean. THEY MUST BE SET RIGHT ON THE SPRING PRESSURE.Yes they do have little trouble in corners,one way more than the other. I prefer the single inline pulltype versus the the v rake style. In fact I am assembling another unit for a local dealer now. they are very popular in my area. I would not choose the 3 pt style thou and you do not see many of those in my area. Neighbor has a used one for sale if that would help,he is just retiring. Rick

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Adam B.

06-01-2004 21:17:37




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 Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to JIM, 05-31-2004 18:50:49  
Wheel rakes do a good job of turning a windrow over. They're not driven by any mechanism, so they can be tricky to use in a field that doesn't have a uniform crop. Thick and thin spots can cause problems with clumping, skipping, or throwing the windrow too far (if you just want to turn the wet bottom up). We have a 3-pt. one with two wheels. It does a great job of rolling a windrow over so the wet side is up. However, it doesn't work very well on curves. In straight windrows it's fine, but if you have a contour to follow, the wheels might turn but not move the crop or might start dragging the crop (depending which direction you're going).

You can't argue with the purchase price or simplicity of most wheel rakes. If you get used to how they like to be operated, one would make a great low-cost implement. Another complaint with wheel rakes is that the tines may have a tendency to crystallize. When that happens, they're brittle and will break instead of flexing. Replacing all the tines on those wheels can really add up.

It'd be a good idea to find someone who has one and watch it in action or ask to rent or borrow it. If that fails, try to get a demonstration of a new one to find out if you like how it works.

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youngster

06-01-2004 16:41:45




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 Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to JIM, 05-31-2004 18:50:49  
i dont care what you say they dont work. all the do is flip[ the hay not take the wet inside to the outside. they also make big lumps and if your feild is ruff the wonk work cause they must not fully touch the ground. now as far as rakeing 2 rows into 1 it works and rakin junk off into trees it works but not much else.



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Don-Wi

06-02-2004 21:11:21




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 Re: Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to youngster, 06-01-2004 16:41:45  
Our $7.50 wheel rake works just fine. If it clumps, it's cause the haymower wadded up and left a clump. Ours sometimes loses the chain that holds the wheel up, and it does an even better job of raking, doesn't miss a single thing. Even if it doesn't turn the wet side up, it still fluffs it to get air through. We don't care when we rake if the wet side is up or not. It just has to be picked up and fluffed a little to dry out. The key is, go fast and don't look back too often. Wouldn't trade our wheel rake for a NH anyday.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Hay Dr

06-03-2004 06:07:20




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 Re: Re: Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to Don-Wi, 06-02-2004 21:11:21  
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I do not see any chains on this wheel rake.



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Don-Wi

06-04-2004 22:52:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to Hay Dr, 06-03-2004 06:07:20  
Ours is a pretty old one, I think the tag says Morill. Its got the wood bolted to the wheels and the spring teeth bolt to the edge of the wheel. They ride on a crank, bent 90 deg. for the wheel to ride on and 90 to go in the frame. There is a peice of chain and a spring, slightly smaller than a snow plow spring, that holds the wheel off the ground enough not to break teeth. We borrow a cousin's H&S V-rake for 2nd crop, that just has springs, no chains. I don't think I would ever go back to a reel type rake. Not when we can buy a wheel rake at auction for $7.50.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Hay Dr

06-01-2004 21:30:29




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 Re: Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to youngster, 06-01-2004 16:41:45  
There are 3 reasons a wheel rake will not work for you. 1. You will not read the operators manual and set the rake properly.
2. You are going too slow
3. You do not want them to work
There has been hundreds of thousands sold in the last 10 years. All these people took your advice and just magically placed their hay in a windrow without a rake.



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Hay Dr

05-31-2004 19:02:40




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 Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to JIM, 05-31-2004 18:50:49  
Every piece of equipment has limitations. Some people just can only drive a tractor and they have no more skill than that. We once had a customer purchase a used round baler and kept it 2 months and baled all their hay but wanted her money back because she said hay baling was too dusty for her. We quickly gave her money back and sold the baler for $500 more. LOL never argue with a fool. We sell hundreds of 3 point hay rakes each year. They work and we tell customers how they work. Are there better rakes? not for $490 new.

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HY_Moose

06-01-2004 08:13:01




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 Re: Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to Hay Dr, 05-31-2004 19:02:40  
New wheel rakes are 800 for a 3 pt model here? And tedders are 1600 at the cheapest place. How many can I pick up down there. :+)



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Hay Dr.

06-01-2004 14:20:05




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 Re: Re: Re: WHEEL RAKE in reply to HY_Moose, 06-01-2004 08:13:01  
We sell a 17' manual fold for $2650 and a 17' Hydraulic fold for $2950. You can get good used 2 rotor tedders from $400- $800.



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