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Rookie JD #5 Mower questions

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Jeff

05-28-2004 15:56:00




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Hooked up an old #5 mower for the first time this afternoon and things just don't seem right. What holds the "shoe" or base of the cutter bar off of the ground? I have the mower hooked up with the regular JD round bar quick tach setup but the base of the bar drags the ground. I can see where if you are mowing and the cutter bar is down that maybe it is supposed to drag on the ground a little but how do you drive it down the road? Also does the cylinder pull the cutter bar all of the way up? Or does it pull this base of the bar up too? See, I'm not afraid to ask dumb questions. Probably good for a few chuckles from you folks that use them all the time. Thanks for any help or ideas. See the John Deere section if you can help me get the power lift system on my B going.

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Alex Rogers

06-02-2004 14:25:12




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 Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Jeff, 05-28-2004 15:56:00  
http://www.retiredtractors.com/No5/index.htm
Is a good site for hitch linkage and stuff. A little late, but nontheless it's a good place for info on the No.5



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David Nemeth

06-01-2004 18:10:19




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 Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Jeff, 05-28-2004 15:56:00  
If you want an original owners manual for your JD #5 mower, call me at 845-427-2867 days. I have one in very good condition.



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Dave H (MI)

05-29-2004 10:42:42




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 Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Jeff, 05-28-2004 15:56:00  
Dan and Alan covered it very well and I will add one last bit. Another reason to have the manual is to know the lube schedule. There is one zerk that needs a hit every two hours and a couple that need it every four. I let the former go a little too long once and regretted it. The manuals are easy to get.



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Dan

05-29-2004 10:12:11




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 Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Jeff, 05-28-2004 15:56:00  
I have a number 5 and number 8. I have used both with cylinder lift and also with cable lift on MT. As mentioned below the bar should lift straight up for a short distance then the outer end will come up faster and be higher off the ground. I suggest getting an operator's manuel for it as you will have lots of other questions that will be answered there. It is also important to adjust it properly for register and lead. If it is set up for a cylinder there should be a special bolt with threads all the way up that the rear, hindged bracket pushes against. That will determine how hight the bar raises. If you go too high the sickle head may hit the frame. Too low and you will catch the hay. Another point is that when you put the bar in transport position, upright and secure with rod, be careful, that sickle may drop and if your fingers are between the sections and guards they will be hurting or gone. With the cutter bar upright the nipple on the end of the pitman should rest on a protrusion on the inner end, this keeps the end of the sickle from dragging on the ground. An operator's manuel and parts book help a great deal. You can generally get one on e bay or from JD.

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Allan

05-29-2004 04:31:07




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 Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Jeff, 05-28-2004 15:56:00  
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Jeff,

Here is a picture of a #5 that is raised. Notice the "chain-like" lift linkage, which you can just make out against the lower part of the right rear tractor tire. Does yours have this linkage?

When the mower is in the operating position, the shoe is on the ground; when lifted, the shoe will be raised about 6 or 7 inches and the outer end of the bar should come up around 30" or so off the ground depending on the bow of the bar.

This "bow" of the bar has to be reset every once in awhile, especially if you are using the mower in heavy alfalfa because it will get to the point where the end of the bar will not lift.

To carry it down the road, you have to manually lift the bar to the vertical position and use the "carry rod" placed thru the bar and secured with it's wingnut. This 'carry rod' is normally stored at the frame of the mower.

Also, you say yours has a cylinder. Are you sure it is not a #7 mower?

Tryin' to help,

Allan

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Kelly C

05-29-2004 08:31:27




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 Re: Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Allan, 05-29-2004 04:31:07  
Thats a sweet looking rig you have Allen. I purchased NH Haybine this winter buy I am for sure going to still do some hay with my #5. I love using it.



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Allan

05-29-2004 08:38:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Kelly C, 05-29-2004 08:31:27  
Hi Kellyl,

You're right; she is one sweet looking old mower. But, it isn't mine.

I found the picture down in the implement photos.

Does yours have a cylinder on a #5? Seems like that would be a major change over for this model.

We traded for a #7 at this point to get the fast tach and the lift cylinder set-up.

Allan



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Kelly C

05-29-2004 08:47:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Allan, 05-29-2004 08:38:25  
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Mine came with the manual lift. But it had the bracket for the cylinder put on it. This is a item in the parts book, so could be standard on latter #5's. I use a cylinder on mine.
You can kind of see it in this photo.



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Allan

05-29-2004 10:41:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Kelly C, 05-29-2004 08:47:32  
Hey!

Nice looking rig. Looks like you have the 9' bar too.

Allan



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Fudd@work

05-28-2004 18:46:46




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 Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Jeff, 05-28-2004 15:56:00  
There should be a hydraulic cylinder or a foot lever that will raise it up. Send for a manual and it will show you how it should line up on your tractor. There are several things that need to be right to mow good. Good luck.



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Sid

05-28-2004 17:01:45




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 Re: Rookie JD #5 Mower questions in reply to Jeff, 05-28-2004 15:56:00  
The guy at triple w retired tractors dot com has a lot of entresting stuff about John Deere stuff. I am pretty sure uou can find it there.



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