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jim ball

05-14-2004 05:49:49




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when it says 4 bottom 16 inches does sixteen refer to the height of the plowshare ? what are the pros/cons of variable width plows ?
what are good models ?




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JMS/MN

05-16-2004 00:06:07




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 Re: plow question in reply to jim ball, 05-14-2004 05:49:49  
A 4-16" plow will turn 64 inches of dirt with each pass. The plowshare is LONGER than 16 inches because it is mounted at an angle. A variable width plow is adjusted hydraulically from the tractor to cut a wider or narrower width per bottom, according to the capacity of the tractor. They generally can be adjusted to cut a range of about 14 inches per bottom, up to 20 inches per bottom. If you are in wetter conditons, or heavier clay, etc, you can pull less of a load, and need to narrow the plow. In opposite conditions, you widen it out to accomplish more work. There is no disassembly- you simply move the hydraulic control to pivot the plow bottoms on the main frame to adjust the cutting width. The downside is the cost of the plow, since the mechanical parts are more involved. The straight frame plow involves fewer and simpler parts and costs less. JD was never a popular plow, compared to IH, White, and others. Some White, Case, and Ford are the same models, just different colors. JD was never big on tillage equipment, although their planters, balers, and combines were popular. Each brand has their own strength. Just look at their sales numbers for their machines.

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riverbend

05-16-2004 15:57:41




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 Re: Re: plow question in reply to JMS/MN, 05-16-2004 00:06:07  
John Deere has made some very good plows.

How wide a cut are you taking with the 'new' variable width plows ? How do they work ? Does one bottom move behind the other ? Does the hitch get reset too ?



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Allan

05-14-2004 11:13:26




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 Re: plow question in reply to jim ball, 05-14-2004 05:49:49  
Jim,

I've never pulled a land plow but have plowed with a lot of two-ways, tumbles and many makes of spinners.

By far, the easiest pulling were the Masseys; something about the way those moldboards were shapped. Always seemed like the hardest pulling were the IHs.

Hope this helps in some way,

Allan



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paul

05-15-2004 14:16:29




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 Re: Re: plow question in reply to Allan, 05-14-2004 11:13:26  
Any version of an Oliver plow (Massey, Ford, MM, White, Ollie) pull a little easier, often are considered a better plow. The newer Case (IHC) plows have a lot of clearence.

--->Paul



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Loren-MN

05-14-2004 09:41:48




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 Re: plow question in reply to jim ball, 05-14-2004 05:49:49  
Worked for a guy last fall that had a JD 8 bottom variable width plow. Variable was hydraulic controlled. Depending on ground conditions, we used it quite a bit. I think the JD was a good plow. My 2 cents.



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riverbend

05-14-2004 06:54:32




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 Re: plow question in reply to jim ball, 05-14-2004 05:49:49  
The 16 would refer to the width of the plowshare - 16 inches.

I don't know if anyone ever changes the width of a variable width plow. It seems like a lot of work to take your plow apart, put it back together and set it up again, just to go from 14 to 16. Most of the bolts on old plows are very tight (and rusty). It would be an arm busting job. It would be better to find a plow that suits your tractor. If it is just for show, it won't matter anyway.

Different people like JD, IH, Ford, Oliver, etc. If they like their plow, they will say that it is the best. Again, if it is for show, match the make of the plow to the tractor.

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Jerry C.

05-14-2004 21:42:11




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 Re: Re: plow question in reply to riverbend, 05-14-2004 06:54:32  
Riverbend, When they say variable width plow, they mean that you can adjust them with your hydraulics, no arm bending knuckle busting episodes. I have a DMI vari - width plow just grab the lever and will widen or narrow. Also have old plows that have adjustment like you discribe, but then you need to usually change the bottoms too for different widths.



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Rob

05-14-2004 06:40:38




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 Re: plow question in reply to jim ball, 05-14-2004 05:49:49  
Question 1: The distance between the beams-the width of sod one shear will turn. 4 x 16" = 64"/pass
Question 2: No idea.
Question 3: JD, IH and most others. They likely wouldn't be around if they didn't plow worth a darn. HTH



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