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shearing pins on nh 68 baler

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Dave

05-11-2004 06:30:39




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I need help adjusting the timing on my baler. Plunger keeps hitting what i call the needle protector in the chute. I have tried adjusting the arm to push the needles farther back when not in chute area with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.




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Jim in michigan

05-12-2004 07:05:06




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 Re: shearing pins on nh 68 baler in reply to Dave, 05-11-2004 06:30:39  
bring your plunger arm all the way up,, there are 2 very subtle notches in the sheet metal that the plunger arm needs to between...the knotters have some small lil dimples,, 3 of them if I recall right,, line those up,, then you are in time,,,Jim



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RickB

05-11-2004 16:56:09




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 Re: shearing pins on nh 68 baler in reply to Dave, 05-11-2004 06:30:39  
When you get ahold of a manual, be sure to check the knotter home position. An improperly set 'home' position forces the operator to use undue force on the brake adjustment. I have found many balers with intermittent shearbolt failures directly related to the knotter home setting. In most instances, I reduced the brake pressure that had been overtightened in an attempt to compensate.



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paul

05-11-2004 11:54:45




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 Re: shearing pins on nh 68 baler in reply to Dave, 05-11-2004 06:30:39  
Buy a manual, NH has them, you need one to operate a baler.

As the others say, the brake needs to be right to hold the needles in the home position.

The linkage from the needle yoke to the plunger needle protector also needs to be adjusted right - a 1/16" can make quite a difference.

For a bad chain, you need to line up 3 dots on the baler frame with 3 dots on a shaft. It's easy but a several step proceedure, best to get it from the manual.

There is also a timing issue with the forks in the back of the baler throat on that rod when you adjust other timing, it _might_ change.

--->Paul

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txblu

05-11-2004 09:55:46




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 Re: shearing pins on nh 68 baler in reply to Dave, 05-11-2004 06:30:39  
check my response to jack.

I had the exact problem with my green 24T. It got progressively worse to the point that every time the tie lever fell (initiating the tie cycle) the pin would shear.

He said that's no problem. Your brake is not working. Went home and inspected the brake and the pads were gone (like worn plumb out). Went to the deere house and got a new set ($50 but worth it), installed them and problem disappeared. Did not have to touch timing. As jack said, the knife protector shield pops up and the bale plunger smacks it and that is the step function that shears your pin.

Proper tension is to have the baler in the pack hay config (not tie) and trip the activator wheel. This wheel is driven by a shaft that comes up from the needle assy. Just push it forward (abruptly, about 3")by grasping the shaft where it connects to the wheel, and rock the wheel (to which the shaft is attached...about 6"in dia on opposite side of baler from brake on the deere) back and forth. This shaft also turns the rotor of your braking system. Proper tension on the springs of the brake shoes is such that you feel pretty good resistance to your rocking effort; not tight but you can feel resistance as you rock the wheel back and forth. I'd define that as half way between won't move and no resistance.(on mine there is about 3/8 inch of thread sticking out past the nut that tightens against the spring that tightens against the pads.

When finished, just pull the shaft you initially pushed forward back to it's original position (back 3") and you are ready to go. Nothing but the wheel, the brake disc and interconnecting rod, should turn during this process. No pto movement or anything else.

Mark

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tlak

05-11-2004 08:49:38




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 Re: shearing pins on nh 68 baler in reply to Dave, 05-11-2004 06:30:39  
Is your needle protector bent up towards your needles?



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jack

05-11-2004 06:41:46




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 Re: shearing pins on nh 68 baler in reply to Dave, 05-11-2004 06:30:39  
unless you have broken your bull chain, the timming should not have changed. I have the same baler, on the right hand side by the knotter there is a brake for the needles, if that brake (looks like a round disc with a little caliper underneath) slips it allows the needles to come forward a little (about 1"-2") this is enough to have the needle protectors engage..if you need specific info on how to time the baler I have the manual at home and could get you that info tonight... now that I have answered your question.. why will my 68 not knot on the left side??

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txblu

05-11-2004 09:31:32




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 Re: Re: shearing pins on nh 68 baler in reply to jack, 05-11-2004 06:41:46  
www.texastwistonline.com. If you can't raise him I'll get you his phone #. Won't be sorry.



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