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John Deere Sickle mower

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Ken Bohannon

05-09-2004 05:11:56




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Recently acquired an JD sickle mower but have no idea how it works or what model or year it is. Where is the data plate on these things or is there one. Also the PTO shaft is square, I know there are some parts missing and would like to know what where and how they belong. I also have an antique post hole auger that runs off a PTO. But the shaft os round so I can't use the yoke and shaft off off it. It has been sitting out for a very very very long so the info on the data is unreadable. Haven't attacked it yet to determine year etc. Any ideas on how to safely remove the gunk to read this thing. It is operated by standing beside it and pulling on 2 cables. I am a newbie and I know exactly squat about this type of stuff but have a strong mechanical backround but I need an idea of how something works before I can picture how it works. Any help would be appreciated, thanks..

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Richard

05-09-2004 14:05:54




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 Re: John Deere Sickle mower in reply to Ken Bohannon, 05-09-2004 05:11:56  
I drug home an old manuare spreader, and wasn't quite sure the mpdel, as over the years someone had covered it with new paint. My local Deere dealer showed me pictures until I identified it. They also will or can get the parts book from which you will still be able to get most parts you need.



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dw

05-09-2004 13:50:37




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 Re: John Deere Sickle mower in reply to Ken Bohannon, 05-09-2004 05:11:56  
Does it have a trailer wheel or is it mounted on the three point? Does it have a drive belt or is it driven by an enclosed chain drive? The answers to would help in identifying.



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txblu

05-09-2004 06:59:12




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 Re: John Deere Sickle mower in reply to Ken Bohannon, 05-09-2004 05:11:56  
TSC has yokes and shafts and all. Sounds like you have the mower half and not the tractor half. These PTO drives have a slip shaft (one male one female) to allow for the implement to move in and out to the pto while in use.

Good luck with your sickle. I hate them. The only one I will use now is in a mower conditioner. It windrows the output so that you can cut the next round without the previous round getting tangled up in your mower and making it skip.

txblu

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Bob Semrau

05-09-2004 22:04:56




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 Re: Re: John Deere Sickle mower in reply to txblu, 05-09-2004 06:59:12  
I'm missing something here (or maybe you are) - if you have a grassboard on your sickle bar mower, the bar will never contact the previously cut hay, so it shouldn't get tangled up ...



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txblu

05-10-2004 05:53:02




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 Re: Re: Re: John Deere Sickle mower in reply to Bob Semrau, 05-09-2004 22:04:56  
It does. Part of the problem is that my field is rectangular and my terraces are at a 45 degree angle. Makes for some messy ends.

I have experimented with several including home made (should see the last version) and it still doesn't lay the grass (not Johnsson or haygrazer; conditioner does that) away from the start of the next cut.

I am (was) using a Ford 515 which doesn't have a pittman arm. The gear box in on the ground at the start end of the bar and is belt driven directly from the pto shaft drive sprocket (on the cutter, not directly off the tractor). Maybe this is too fat a pig to get the tethers to roll the grass far enough away. Ford was supposed to be the leader in this arena so it should work; you'd think.

txblu

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Dave H (MI)

05-10-2004 06:57:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: John Deere Sickle mower in reply to txblu, 05-10-2004 05:53:02  
You are both correct. In a perfect world the grass board throws the grass out of the way of the next cut. Irregular fields can be a real nuisance with sickles, though. You have to be fast with the hydraulic lift to keep the bar from pulling up previously mowed sections and making a mess.



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Dave H (MI)

05-09-2004 07:15:56




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 Re: Re: John Deere Sickle mower in reply to txblu, 05-09-2004 06:59:12  
Ken, if you describe the mower better I can help you ID it. I use JD sickles to mow my fields around here and have a fair knowledge of the #5.
txblu, mower conditioners are great but they are too much for beginners, small fields, etc and can be expensive to buy/maintain. A good sickle mower lays the hay over in a wide swath that you can straddle with the tractor for the next pass.
If you are dragging the sickle over already cut hay it will cause problems sometimes, but that is not my understanding on how to use one. One day I think I will but a haybine, but I am pretty happy with my (3) little JD#5 mowers.

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Ernie

05-09-2004 06:49:45




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 Re: John Deere Sickle mower in reply to Ken Bohannon, 05-09-2004 05:11:56  
Is it a pull type or 3 point hitch? I have one with a 3 point hitch I'm getting ready to mow hay with. Try and find out the model no. Should be a name plate and serial no. on it some where.



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