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Planter: 3-point vs. pull type

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Nathan

05-04-2004 18:49:30

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Is there any disadvantages of having a 3-point planter instead of a pull type? What controls the depth of a 3-point planter?

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Chris-se-ILL

05-05-2004 22:14:48

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Re: Planter: 3-point vs. pull type in reply to Nathan, 05-04-2004 18:49:30

When I bought a new IH-5400 Soybean Special {15' wide - 11 row - 15" spacing} I was hard pressed for any extra money so I didn't buy a cart to carry it, I just carried it on the 3pt hitch of my IH-1566. The drive wheels of the planter would not allow for me to keep the duals on while the planter was mounted. The seed box could only be filled half full, before the planter pulled the front wheels off the ground {I had a full set of front weights on it too!}. The worst part was... that with the duals off, all the weight was carried by the single inside tires on the rear axle. Those tires were radials and the sidewall flexed so much, that in two years time, it deteriorated the inside of the tire sidewalls and the cracks "bit" holes in the innertube. I now have to replace 2 radial tires on that tractor! :-( Even with the tire pressure above the recommended pressure {and the hopper only half full}, the tires would squat down terribly!

I would never again have a 3pt mounted planter!!! The IH-5400 is great... it is the carrying it that stinks!!!

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greenbeanman, KS

05-05-2004 09:25:09

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Re: Planter: 3-point vs. pull type in reply to Nathan, 05-04-2004 18:49:30

Several have mentioned side stress. A number of years ago I custom planted a mile field for a friend. It had fairly new terraces that were so steep that I could bearly keep my tractor from sliding on them. Fairly often the tractor and planter on 3 pt. toolbar did slide sideways. I broke a number of aluminum castings on my John Deere Flex 71s as a result. This was both very time consuming and expensive.

Still, like others, I wouldn't be afraid to own and use either.

My tool bar had guage wheels on it to control depth.

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paul

05-05-2004 07:03:49

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Re: Planter: 3-point vs. pull type in reply to Nathan, 05-04-2004 18:49:30

3pt is more manuverable, cornering, backing up.

Pull type is generally a bit better on everything else. There is more room for 'forgiveness' on a pull type - less sideways stress on the machine, less jerky rows, less weight on the tractor, more flexable for carrying herb, fert, insecticides, and so on. None of it real, real big deal.

Both are fine, I'd prefer a pull type most of the time, but operated a very old Case 3pt for years & would not 'stay away' from another 3pt if that's what I found. Either will do fine.

In fact, I just realized, I'll be parking my pulltype corn planter & going to my 3pt mounted bean planter in a day or 2. Like them both for what they do. Beans all you put down are the seeds, so no need for the other options.

--->Paul

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farmermatt

05-05-2004 05:21:27

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Re: Planter: 3-point vs. pull type in reply to Nathan, 05-04-2004 18:49:30

My dad and I have used a 3 point 6 row for about 30 yrs. The depth is controled by the length of the third link. Benifits of the three point is quick turns and manuvering. Drawbacks are weight on the three point hitch. By the time you get the seed and insecticide boxes full it can weigh quite a bit. Also if you try to cut sharp corners, the planter cuts them just as sharp as the tractor causing sideways pull on the units. Thats very hard on them. All in all, I would recomend a pull type but wouldnt be scared of a mounted planter.

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Scotty

05-05-2004 02:25:44

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Re: Planter: 3-point vs. pull type in reply to Nathan, 05-04-2004 18:49:30

If You are talking about a modern 4+ row planter to use on larger acerages; Then I would say pulltype is best! One reason is it is difficult to add fertilizer to a 3 pt setup. I like to add fertilizer to row itself. Another reason is I think the drawn models offer better depth control. As for smaller, older units I have little experience with them.

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