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IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts

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Jay

05-04-2004 10:50:26




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I restored an older IH spreader last year. Replaced all the wood ect. I spread 5 loads this weekend and then the feed chain in the bottom of the bed broke. Of coarse with a full load on that now needs to be shoveled out prior to repairing. My question is, the chain was in great shape. I'm sure something just jammed. Does anyone have a source for links and splicing supplies? How do I identify the style and size chain I need to make my repair? New chains are very expensive and being this chain isn't in bad shape, I would rather repair it than buy a whole new chain.

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Bret

05-09-2004 06:03:39




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 Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to Jay, 05-04-2004 10:50:26  
If you have an OLD McD/Int'l you may be in the same boat as me. The spreaders were made to run with an obsolete (pretty much anyways) size apron chain. If you put 67H flat chain on it the drive sprockets are the wrong pitch and it wil either break the chain or strip the teeth off the drive gear (what happened to me). I'm in the process of changing the sprockets and recutting the drive gear teeth. All so I can have a cheap, small ground drive spreader.

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Tom-Pa

05-07-2004 15:03:28




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 Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to Jay, 05-04-2004 10:50:26  
If it is a model 100 or 200 IH spreader, the links are a 'S' chain link. they are larger than
a 72 link.



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Delbert

05-05-2004 18:22:21




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 Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to Jay, 05-04-2004 10:50:26  
Jay i,m almost positive you have a no. 200 spreader and it will have the letter s on the link. I don,t want to spoil your day but from experience you will be money and frutration ahead to buy a new chain. I bought an old spreader thought the chain looked good after unloading it by hand several times i bought a new chain and haven,t looked back since. The other guy,s give good places to buy chain. You can buy links but think they will just keep breaking somewhere else. Now this spreader is the only thing i have that i won,t stand behind.

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david stephenson

05-04-2004 14:56:43




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 Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to Jay, 05-04-2004 10:50:26  
try these web sites tsc.com, lorenzomfg.com/parts the outfit that took over central tractors now is in the old herschel mfg building in indianola iowa if i can finf my new book i will get there email address for you



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Indydirtfarmer

05-04-2004 14:49:44




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 Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to Jay, 05-04-2004 10:50:26  
Jay, e-mail me, and I'll give you a good source for parts. I have a catalogue in front of me now that has a great listing on chains. For some reason, the name of this business won't post on here. My e-mail addy is un-blocked. John



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JMS/MN

05-04-2004 11:36:03




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 Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to Jay, 05-04-2004 10:50:26  
Take a link into any dealer store or Fleet, TSC, similar farm supply store. It might be flat chain, pintle, Graetz, or other. Older spreaders generally had flat chain, maybe a #62 or so. If it is flat chain and you can separate the links without tools- it is worn out (stretched) and needs to be replaced. Good source of replacement aprons is Schoup- 1-800-627-6137, or www.schoupparts.com



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Jay

05-04-2004 11:48:01




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 Re: Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to JMS/MN, 05-04-2004 11:36:03  
Thank you so much for your response. The problem I have is in my area, most of the farms have gone out and houses were built, so dealers are an hour or so ride. I suppose I can remove a piece of chain and take it with me. So what your saying is, I should be able to buy some chain to make my repair. I didn't want to waist two or three hours going to a dealer without knowing it was a common chain type. Now I feel a little better. If I can look around and identify the type prior to driving to the dealer, then I can call ahead to make sure they have it and save some time. Thanks again.

Jay

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JMS/MN

05-04-2004 11:53:22




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 Re: Re: Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to Jay, 05-04-2004 11:48:01  
If it is flat chain (kind of a square or slightly oblong link), it should have a number stamped on each link, on the top side. Pintle is similar to a roller chain, and should have the number stamped on the side. Graetz links are much stronger than flat or pintle, and do not need tools to disassemble. Flat chain needs a chain detaching tool to separate one link from another. Pintle links are continuous chains and you need to grind pin heads to disassemble, connector links to reassemble.

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Jay

05-04-2004 12:01:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to JMS/MN, 05-04-2004 11:53:22  
This is a flat style chain like what runs my corn planter, but much larger. Looks to be a pretty thick stamped metal though. Then it looks like it was all crimped together link by link. Seems to me it might require a special tool to seperate the links. I'll go home tonight and try to either post a picture, or look for some numbers stamed in the links. Thanks again for your help.

Jay



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JMS/MN

05-04-2004 12:38:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain Parts in reply to Jay, 05-04-2004 12:01:05  
Sounds like you need a flat chain detatching tool. Cast iron, has a pistol grip, three notches for various sized links. You likely have a 62, 67, 67H link on a spreader. Wire brush the link to find the number- it is on the 'fat' end of the link. Detatcher holds the chain while you beat on a link with a hammer. Cold chisel also helps. Tool is maybe $10, well worth it.



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Jay

05-04-2004 12:47:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Manure Spreader Chain P in reply to JMS/MN, 05-04-2004 12:38:44  
I'm all for getting a tool if it makes it easier and also makes it a sound repair. Nothing will make me douse my spreader with gasoline and light it faster than having the chain break over and over again because of a quick fix repair. I can see already that the links look very strong and hard to bend, so I'll look for the tool. I used to get the central tractor book, but when they changed names, I stopped getting the books. I've been searching the past couple days on and off for a farm supply catalog to request, so I can do mail order, but have been unsucessful finding a link to request a catalog. Lots of catalogs out there on the net, but seems like nobody makes it easy to subscribe to a mailing list. Sure wish I kept one of the old catalogs.

Jay

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paul

05-05-2004 07:19:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Manure Spreader Cha in reply to Jay, 05-04-2004 12:47:34  
I tend to not get my messages posted here if I put in the actual web site, but CT has turned into V a l u e-B u i l t spelled without the first 'e'; or last 'u'. That is their www. also. (still blocked, see if the spaces help...)

Shoup, as Jim mentioned above, is a good _farm_ supply mail order place often with better prices.

To take the chain apart, you will need to loosen the tightener mechanism most all the way on your spreader, then fold the chain link over as far as it will go, put something solid metal behind one of the folded links, and pound hard on the other folded link so it slides through the slot & apart. The chain detacher is the 'proper' solid metal object, but you can use other things that are sitting in your shop....

With a busted chain, it's already in 2 pieces; but you need to do the opposite to repair the chain. If you haven't loosened the chain tightener device yet (a long threaded section), might as well get some penetrating oil on it now..... It will need it.

Look carefully on the bottom of your chain links - that is the _only_ place a spreader chain wears. They look 100% good from all other places other than the back bottom of the 'C' hook that rubs on the floor. If they have a flat spot wore on them, they are probably weak, and you will continue to have this problem.

Manure spreaders are built for manure. Damp manure. If you fill them with drier material, or dirt, or composted dry manure, it will not slide well & will bust chains. 2/3 full is a _good_ load for the chain with these materials...

--->Paul

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