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Baler, JD 214WS - help

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Chuck, WA

04-30-2004 19:19:33




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I was given a JD 214WS wire tie baler by a friend. The baler has sat in a barn or under a shed roof in a dry climate for 5-6 years. Once I got it cleaned up and lubed, I started checking it out by hand-turning it. All was well until the needles were supposed to trip to come up. Something snapped, and in checking it out, it seemed to be a shear pin on the rod used to adjust the needles stroke. The baler is different from what is shown and described in the manual, which has a brake on the needles disk. This brake is separate. Here's the URL for a picture of it, with the adjustment pushrod on the left and the brake mechanism on the right. The shear pin was brass, about 3/16" diameter, and located at the lower end of the adjustment rod where the nail is through the shear pin hole.

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I'm guessing the brake is frozen and I have to take it apart, clean and reassemble it. Since it's different that what's in the manual, can anybody tell me what the torque should be for a starting point?

Second question...when I bought shear bolts for the flywheel from the JD dealer, the ones he gave me are a loose fit in the hole, and longer than the thickness, with lock nuts. Thus the shear bolts fit loosely. Here's a URL for a picture.

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Is this correct? The ones the previous owner used were a tight fit in the hole, and just long enough to tighten the nut.

Fourth question...how much am I risking trouble by not taking all of the slip clutches apart, cleaning them, reassembling to the correct torques, testing the slip point, before trying to bale? As mentioned, the baler has been idle for 5-6 years in a dry climate, in a barn except for the last two years when it was outside under a shed roof.

Last question...how do I get at the knife to sharpen it?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Chuck, WA

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clarence bivins

06-12-2005 20:47:35




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 Re: Baler, JD 214WS - help in reply to Chuck, WA, 04-30-2004 19:19:33  
I have a 214ws but it has the brake on the disc like you where talking about,my book says about 39ftpnds of tension.The shear bolts will work a little loose with no problems.As far as the slip clutches go I have never taken mine apart or adjusted them and they look really dirty and full of hay ect,but mine always shears the pin before causing any damage.The only way i have found to get to the nife is to take the plunger out of the rear of the baler.

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txblu

05-01-2004 17:03:33




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 Re: Baler, JD 214WS - help in reply to Chuck, WA, 04-30-2004 19:19:33  
www.texastwistonline.com



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Chuck, WA

05-02-2004 18:26:48




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 Re: Re: Baler, JD 214WS - help in reply to txblu, 05-01-2004 17:03:33  
Steve Twister...nice set of pictures on your web page, but not much help. I'm in WA state - long way from Texas!

No replies to these questions and hay on the ground, so broke the needle brake loose and cleaned it up. Tightened it till it felt right. Then just had at it.

Argh! One side ties, the other doesn't. Manual suggests checking and cleaning gripper drive tube springs. One frozen, so cleaned and reassembles - still didn't do it. Now am stuck on that problem...hay still on the ground!

Thanks for replying, but just an advertisement for a service halfway across the country doesn't help.

Chuck, WA

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