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Bucket Laoder for a 1950's JD M?

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Warren Varney

04-13-2004 05:15:06




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My father Purchased a frontend loader for my john Deere "M" tractor. I have't heard of a loader for a "M" before. Does anyone have one or know what model number the bucket could be? I am looking to find the model number so I can get a manual for it. When my father purchased it the bucket was mounted on another "M". It has a hydrolic resevior that bolts on the side of the tractor to supply the hydrolics for this bucket. The resevior has a Warning label on the side facing the operator about getting off the tractor. Is this a John Deere made peice of equipment or is it somthing sombody made? If it is a piece of John Deere equipment how do I mount it on? I hope sombody has some answers to my questions.

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Quebec Red

04-15-2004 15:06:03




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 Re: Bucket Laoder for a 1950's JD M? in reply to Warren Varney, 04-13-2004 05:15:06  
In 1957 my father bought his first and only JD tractor (he learned FAST), a 420 W, with a 30 loader. The lift rams entered the cylinders to lift. He had to remove one headlight to clear the loader. He bought the 420 to have live pto. After a Super C, lpto was a dream. Next year an IH 330 with a 33 loader arrived. Pure heaven.



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Bill

04-13-2004 09:21:08




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 Re: Bucket Laoder for a 1950's JD M? in reply to Warren Varney, 04-13-2004 05:15:06  
The JD loader for a M was the model 30.
Post a picture and I can tell you if it looks like the JD loader.



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Warren Varney

04-13-2004 09:59:49




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 Re: Re: Bucket Laoder for a 1950's JD M? in reply to Bill, 04-13-2004 09:21:08  
Thanks for the info Bill. I have tride posting a picture without sucsess, and hope to have a picture posted tonight. If it is a model #30 bucket do you know if the hydrolic resivour is piped off the existing system? Any info will be appreciated.



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Warren Varney

04-13-2004 17:06:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Bucket Laoder for a 1950's JD M? in reply to Warren Varney, 04-13-2004 09:59:49  
I can't get a picture to post but the bucket is four feet wide and came off an "M" so it must be a #30. Do you know any more about the #30's such as if the hydrolic resevior came as part of the loader or is it special equipment? If anyone knows anything more about adapting my tractor to use it then please let me know!



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Aaron

04-14-2004 11:10:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bucket Laoder for a 1950's JD M? in reply to Warren Varney, 04-13-2004 17:06:19  
I have a #30 loader for my M's, and mine only uses the hyd. system on the tractor. No extra tank. To tell if it is a number 30, look at the following: If it is a series 1 #30 JD it will have a leveling wheel that you turn with your hand on one side of the loader that controls the digging pitch of the bucket. If it a series 2, it will have a leveling wheel on each side of the loader. It mounts to the tractor by a set of brackets that bolt in front of the rear tires on the front of the drawbar assembly. It also attaches to the front end by a bracket that bolts to the square block directly below the grill on the front casting. Hope this helps.

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Warren

04-14-2004 14:16:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bucket Laoder for a 1950's JD in reply to Aaron, 04-14-2004 11:10:42  
Aaron, My Bucket has a lever with a cable attached that runs to the bucket that trips it but no ajustment to adjust pitch. How does the hydrolics for the bucket attach to the main hydrolics on the tractor? Do you have shortages of hydrolic fluid without having a resevior? Is there hydrolics on the end of the bucket to tilt the bucket? How do you run the hydrolics for the bucket? questions and questions!!!!

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Aaron

04-14-2004 19:43:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bucket Laoder for a 1950's in reply to Warren , 04-14-2004 14:16:37  
1st of all it may not be a JD loader, and to me, it doesn't sound like one. It may be a Wagner? 2nd, the hyd. for the loader attach to the tractor via hoses from the control lever to the hyd lines for the touch-o-matic hyds. to the rear lift. You lock your rear drawbar with the lock pins, and the lines disconnect near the dash for the hoses to hook into. No shortage on fluid, once the system has been refilled due to the oil going into the loader cylinders. The bucket dumps via trip mechanism on the front. No hyd. dump on a factory loader. It is lowered and raised with a handle mounted to a control valve on the top left side of the loader arm.

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Warren

04-15-2004 10:02:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bucket Laoder for a 19 in reply to Aaron, 04-14-2004 19:43:17  
Aaron, if it is a wagoner then what models did wagoner make to fit the "M"? I am missing some of the parts so I am not exactly sure about how its set up. If it is a wagoner what would it look like? Here's what I have, two A-frame braces that one of the bottom points braces somehow to the rear end of the tractor, with a couple inches of pipe coming from the top point of the A-frame brace which I believe the loaders arms pivot on. Then I have two 28" peices of pipe that one end comes to a point on, and each have two pieces of flatsock metal coming off with a hole in each that has somthing to do with mounting the bucket. The bucket is three feet wide and the loader arms I believe are 10 feet long to the point the buchet pivots. It has two hydrolic cylinders that lift the bucket, and there's a big U shaped piece that goes I believe around the front end of the tractor. The bottom of the U has a metal plate that goes under (I believe) the front of the tractor and mounts on to a special mount. I don't have the mount because the man who sold it needed it to run other equipment with his tractor. What I don't have I think I can make or get, but if this is not original then I'm not going to change my tractor to use it. Thanks for your help

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Aaron

04-18-2004 19:08:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bucket Laoder for in reply to Warren, 04-15-2004 10:02:23  
Sorry, I don't know anything about wagner loaders, except that they made one for the M JD. I have never seen one. If you could post a picture, that would help. I have no way to post a picture of mine. Sorry I can't be of more help.



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Warren Varney

04-13-2004 16:45:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Bucket Laoder for a 1950's JD M? in reply to Warren Varney, 04-13-2004 09:59:49  



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