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New Idea 272 Conditioner

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Casey in Ky

03-31-2004 19:25:32




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Can any better tell me anything about this thing(if that is indeed the model, just what the man said on the phone)? I've found one for $300. The rollers are suppose to be in decent shape. It was last used 3 or 4 years ago. Any advice??

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Casey




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JK-NY

04-02-2004 18:41:52




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 Re: New Idea 272 Conditioner in reply to Casey in Ky, 03-31-2004 19:25:32  
It is probably 6' cut,you will need at least 50 pto hp in heavy hay to run it.Hay cut with the cutditioner does seem to dry /cure faster than with my sickle haybine.they are a simple machine, if you get on side hills alot they sometimes tend to walk downhill a little. You can run over windrowed or raked hay that gets wet with them to spread it out and get it dry, this works as well or better than a tedder for me.Bigest drawbacks-narrower width and uses alot of power for its size

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Farmer Tom

04-01-2004 20:08:27




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 Re: New Idea 272 Conditioner in reply to Casey in Ky, 03-31-2004 19:25:32  
I have a #279 NI CutDitioner. Works best on grasses. A real simple machine. The owner's manual says the rough cut stubble it leaves is an asset - aids in a quicker regrowth. Like the book says, it even can be used to tedd with - I've done it, and it works okay, but still perfer a tedder. In tall stands it works the 3020JD real good, but the 1850 Oliver hardly knows it hooked on. What I am trying to say is, it does take HP to operate it.

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Super Steve

04-01-2004 15:47:48




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 Re: New Idea 272 Conditioner in reply to Casey in Ky, 03-31-2004 19:25:32  
we nought one of those a year and a half ago. its a great machine for us. we cut about 50 acres of grassy hay with it last year. sharpened the blades once and straightened a few from hitting rocks. its great. its a bit of work for our 4/65(60-65hp)nuffield in thicker stuff. hay does dry really fast with it. love it. would defenetly buy for $300. we paid $1500-$1700(cant remember)Canadian for ours.

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Jim H.

04-01-2004 08:17:39




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 Re: New Idea 272 Conditioner in reply to Casey in Ky, 03-31-2004 19:25:32  
I have one of these, and I love how it conditions the hay. I live in NW PA, and I bought one of these last year. One day, I cut in the morning & baled in the afternoon! Good hay, too! It was a HOT day, and I tedded it at mid-day. The big problem with these is they leave too much stubble, even with freshly sharpened flails. You'll really lose A LOT with it. Because of the stubble, I'm only going to use it as a backup. But as for conditioning the hay, it works pretty good.

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Tim(nj)

03-31-2004 20:03:53




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 Re: New Idea 272 Conditioner in reply to Casey in Ky, 03-31-2004 19:25:32  
Well if it's a 272, it uses flail knives on a rotor to cut and condition the hay. No conditioning rollers. The only roller in it is the one under the rotor to keep it from scalping. A cut/ditioner isn't the best machine for clover or alfalfa, knocks off leaves. Will mow any type of grass, standing, down, tangled, wet, dry, whatever, but it doesn't leave pretty stubble, looks kind of ragged. You'd need at least 50 HP on the pto to be comfortable. Makes the hay in shorter pieces. Some people will try to hand you some BS about the shorter pieces choking horses, but that isn't true. Been doing horse hay with cut/ditioners and rotary scythes (same type of machine but from Mathews Company) for a few years, never had a problem. Think about it. If short pieces of grass choked horses, how would they graze on pasture and live? $300 is cheap enough for one if it's in good shape. You can also use it to shred cornstalks for baling if you want. I've used mine to cut weeds and grass off CRP ground, too.

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