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New Holland knotters tying plastic

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James

03-29-2004 19:44:20




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I used a 273 last year which had not been used in years and set outside. I did OK using plastic to tie 3000 bales. It seemed a little finicky on knot tale length, but otherwise seemed to tie good.

I just got a 276 which my grandfather purchased new. It's in great shape, probably seen 200,000 or less bales. I think he always used sisal.

I sell all my hay. Should I try getting the 276 to tie with plastic, or should I go the low hassle route and stick with sisal?

Is the bill hook the only thing that is different when the knotters are set up for plastic.

If I ship hay, is sisal a problem?

Thanks

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Mike (WA)

03-31-2004 12:36:12




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 Re: New Holland knotters tying plastic in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:44:20  
I was never aware that there was a difference in billhooks between the two twine types. I had a 273, and it would bale about 30 bales with plastic, then start missing like crazy. Talked to the local baler guy- he said my knotter mechanism was worn, and once the grease warmed up enough to be pliable, would start missing. Made sense to me, and I didn't like plastic anyhow, so used sisal without problems for the 10 years I used the baler. If you're selling the hay, you'd have to be a pretty poor salesman not to be able to talk buyers into sisal (environment, petroleum based, damage to critters, never goes away, etc.).

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Steve from New Holland

03-31-2004 04:29:47




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 Re: New Holland knotters tying plastic in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:44:20  
James, I live in an area that uses both. Plastic is definately more uniform, but for some unknown reason, some older knotters put up a fuss when using it. I've seen both billhooks work in both strings. The MAIN thing when using plastic twine is to loosen the tension on the twine clamp located on the side of your bale box. That little spring can cause alot of trouble in plastic if it is too tight. You must have a little tension, but make sure it is very little. Steve

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paul

03-30-2004 06:50:25




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 Re: New Holland knotters tying plastic in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:44:20  
Where I live, you would have to sell at a discount to get rid of small squares with plastic twine. It never goes away, people hate it. Much easier to deal with a couple busted bales than to replace wheel bearings, cut it off the legs of your livestock, remove it from the tillage & planting equipment, etc. At hay auctions I only see 10% or so small squares with plastic.

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Rick

03-30-2004 05:14:47




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 Re: New Holland knotters tying plastic in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:44:20  
James; I didn't do anything to my Jd or 570 New Holland when I switched. Rick



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Dan

03-29-2004 21:09:14




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 Re: New Holland knotters tying plastic in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:44:20  
In my area I don't think I could even find sisel twine. I have always used plastic in my 282. I think the bill hooks are the only thing that needs changeing, they might work. Otherwise you might have to adjust twine discs. Not sure about the rest as have always used the plastic.



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