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James

03-29-2004 19:33:54




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Pros and Cons of Plastic vs. Sisal? Is plastic that much stronger? Can I make just as heavy of bales with Sisal?




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RayP(MI)

04-01-2004 18:50:30




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 Re: Square baler twine in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:33:54  
Fiber farmers raising sheep, llamas - will shy away from plastic. When it gets in the animal's fleece it is a dickens to get it out. You end up picking until you're blue in the face, or cutting out whole chunks of fleece and throwing it away. So if your potential market includes these farmers, better stick with sisal!



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kyhayman

03-31-2004 05:27:49




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 Re: Square baler twine in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:33:54  
I switched to plastic when I got a NH bale wagon. The twisting, knicking, and need for really tight bales made this a necessity. I didnt change anything on the baler (336 Deere), just put it in and started baling.

The other folks are right, it never, ever goes away and can be a huge mess. I put up 10,000 squares a year (and going planning to increase by 2000 a year for each of next 10 years) with all of it sold. I also buy a lot of hay to resell. Most of what I have observed is folks in the east and southeast are die hard sisal users. Most of the folks elsewhere dont even know what it is. As far as customers, if the quality, color, and bale weight is there people will by it no matter what it is tied with, if it isnt they will b**** about something and twine is as good an excuse as anything. Also, some folks will find a reason to run down your hay to try and negotiate a lower price. I gave up that game, prices are what they are.

For round bales I use sisal exclusively. I absolutely am not going to slop around in the mud and cut the twine off a roll of hay. I do store inside or wrap almost all of my rolls though. Most of my rolls are fed on site.

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Walter

03-30-2004 06:58:14




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 Re: Square baler twine in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:33:54  
Regardless of which you use you should be careful to pick up all the twine when you feed livestock. They will chew it and if swallowed can clog up their guts and kill them.



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paul

03-30-2004 06:46:09




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 Re: Square baler twine in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:33:54  
Plastic holds up better, won't rot, less mice problems, used to be a bit cheaper.

Most folks around here hate plastic, as it won't rot, never goes away..... Just aweful miserable stuff when it's wrapped around your livestock or planter or.....

The baler needs to be set up just a tad better to handle plastic.

Locally it is much harder to sell hay in small squares when it's wrapped with plastic twine.

I use plstic on my big round bales, but would not at all on my small squares.

--->Paul

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Rick

03-30-2004 05:11:30




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 Re: Square baler twine in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:33:54  
James; I run plastic period. I could not buy good sisal any more too many thick thin spots. I use only plastic now and would not go back to string period. Much more dependable in my operation. You have to choose the right knot strength rating for your application thou. I run 170# knot rating. It is also cheaper. Let me know if I can help you out anymore,I get it by the pallet direct. ps their is a difference in brands thou. And also as far as horse people not buying thats not true in my case at all. I can not sell wire tied bales. Rick

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RichG

03-30-2004 01:32:56




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 Re: Square baler twine in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:33:54  
I sell alot of hay to horse owners and none of them want anything to do with plastic. I don't use it for the main reason that it never goes away. Plastic wrapped around a horses leg to the point it cuts into the flesh is not a nice sight. Sissal however will get chewed threw if you don't have good barn cats. I know it is pretty easy to just through away the plastic but alot of people just leave it lay. All on preference i guess.

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Bret

04-11-2004 05:01:53




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 Re: Re: Square baler twine in reply to RichG, 03-30-2004 01:32:56  
Maybe somebody should let the horse owners know they can bend over and PICK UP THE TWINE! Nobody I know, except my 14 year old know it all son would even think of throwing a bale to any animal without taking the tiwne off first.



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old

03-29-2004 21:28:30




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 Re: Square baler twine in reply to James, 03-29-2004 19:33:54  
When I did square I always used plastic because it worked better and lasted longer, I even know of places that will not buy your hay unless its plastic.



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