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Chris (Pa)

03-27-2004 18:41:18




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I found a 2-18" (I think) plow out in a field for a 3 PT. hitch. Can I pull this with a 4200 (26 HP) 4X4 Deere or would it be too much. Everything is there needs one bolt. How much should I offer? Thanks in advance.




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jacksun

03-29-2004 15:51:55




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 Re: Plow in reply to Chris (Pa), 03-27-2004 18:41:18  
if you have hydrostatic drive on your 4200 stop dont buy a plow john deere does not recommend using a plow with your tractor save your money and get a tiller



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Bob Jarvis

03-29-2004 13:21:05




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 Re: Plow in reply to Chris (Pa), 03-27-2004 18:41:18  
I'm just guessing here, but if the combined length of the share and shin are 18" and the share is angled back about 45 or 50 degrees from the crossbar (which sounds about right to me) then you're probably looking at a 2 by 12. You should normally figure that you need about 1 horsepower for each inch of plow bottom width, which would seem to indicate that your tractor could handle up to 26 inches of combined bottom width, but as others have said you'll likely have problems pulling that plow with a modern compact tractor because

A) your tractor doesn't weigh enough to get good traction when pulling a plow through the ground

B) you've probably got turf tires on it instead of agricultural (ag) tires, and when pulling heavy implements the tires matter a lot.

However, if you're dead set on getting the plow there are options - like, you buy the plow (if it's not in 100% working condition $100 would be a generous offer, I think) and take off the rear-most bottom - I expect it should just unbolt. Then you'd have a one-bottom 12 that your tractor might be able to handle. You might want to think about having some liquid weight (calcium or water/antifreeze mix) added to your tires to improve traction, and perhaps putting ag tires on it. Or you could just buy another tractor. Something like a Ford 8N should be able to pull both bottoms through previously-broken soil, or one bottom through virgin dirt. I hope this helps.

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Rick K.

03-28-2004 18:48:37




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 Re: Plow in reply to Chris (Pa), 03-27-2004 18:41:18  
Chris,
I have a 2-16 Case trip lever plow. I have a Allis Chalmers which pulls it fine. I also have a Kubota 25hp 4wd with ag tires. If I set the plows down, the Kubota will just spin. And this is in a field that is tilled every year. I have to pick it up to where it is just cutting about 2" of dirt, then I still get close to overheating. I dont think you'll be able to pull it. Price... auctions around here for a 2 bottom 3pt, 50-100 depending on how many people want them. Bottom line, weight, traction and HP are king when plowing and the compacts just don't have it, thats when I get out the old Allis to work.

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Indydirtfarmer

03-28-2004 03:07:56




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 Re: Plow in reply to Chris (Pa), 03-27-2004 18:41:18  
I'd bet it's more likely a 2x16" plow. That would be a load on 26HP. First, you might be a little short on weight. Second, It takes about 35 or 40 HP to pull 2 x 16"s around my neck of the woods. If you have VERY light soil, you MIGHT be able to do it. I'd search for 2 x 12" Or a single 16" plow. (Or a bigger tractor) JMHO. John



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paul

03-28-2004 21:57:35




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 Re: Re: Plow in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 03-28-2004 03:07:56  
I'm with Indy on this. Probably a 16".

Probably run out of traction with a compact be4 running out of hp.

Probably not enough hp or traction for most soils with a 2-16 or bigger.

--->Paul



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Leroy

03-27-2004 19:11:40




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 Re: Plow in reply to Chris (Pa), 03-27-2004 18:41:18  
I don't think there ever was a 2 bottom 18" plow made



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Leroy

03-28-2004 19:07:55




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 Re: Re: Plow in reply to Leroy, 03-27-2004 19:11:40  
I forgot to say that is twice the plow you could pull, 2 - 12" max with trouble, or with trouble 1 - 16", stick with 1 - 14"



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