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Tripped IH 4-bottom plow

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Old Hickory

03-24-2004 18:45:50




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I have an IH pull type 4-bottom. I tripped the rear bottom on a rock and I am not sure what has to be done to swing it back into place. It appears to hinge on a bolt with a castle nut. Does the foot have to be disassembled or is there a simpler way to get it back in place. I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me how to get an owners manual for this plow. I believe it is 1950-60 vintage. Uses a hydraulic cyinder to lift the plow on two front wheels and also has a small rear trailering wheel. All wheels have rubber tires.

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Hugh MacKay

03-26-2004 03:29:27




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 Re: Tripped IH 4-bottom plow in reply to Old Hickory, 03-24-2004 18:45:50  
Hickory: Couple things wrong with this discussion, yes it should be as simple as backing up with plow down until you hear it click. And yes you should have a manual, it shows how to manually trip these and lubricate them anually as paul suggests. Clean them up and put graphite on them, not grease. The other possibility is you have something broken in there. There is what looks like a very short leaf spring with a hooked end. Those can break, you should always have one on hand.

As to model designation, both plows were available with either type of hitches and tail wheels hoover speaks of, although what he states is usually the case. The quickest way to tell which plow you have is the fore and aft clearance between plow beams. No 60 is 21". No. 70 is 24". I believe the 70 has more vertical clearence from tip of plow point to beam as well but I can't seem to lay my hand on the figure right now. 700 plows were 30" and 500 plows were 27". I'm not sure I think 60 and 70 shared the same differences.

On your triped beam, I was sure IH briefly used shear bolts on some of these trip bottoms. It may have been another manufacturer, as I can not find this in my plow parts book. If it is a shear bolt you should be able to quite easily compare with other bottoms. One thing I have learned over the years from IH plow parts books, is they at least used what is in the book you have, how much more we don't know. Problem with IH plow part books is when a new one was issued, it indicated this book superceeds book x and book x should be destroyed. Problem is not many were destroyed. By now they are all floating around for sale and unless you know the sequence, you are not sure the book is valid. Operators manuals will be somewhat better.

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hoover

03-24-2004 19:48:14




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 Re: Tripped IH 4-bottom plow in reply to Old Hickory, 03-24-2004 18:45:50  
That sounds like a #60 or 70 IH plow. All you have to do is leave it down and back up. When you hear a click it will be reset so you can so you can continue plowing. The reason I beleive its one of these models is because the older ones if you hit a rock the hitch on the plow would break away from the trtactor hitch and wouldn't trip the beam. Those you had to back up and hook back up to continue plowing. A good way to tell if it is a 60 or 70 is look at the hitch. The 60 hitch is fastened by two bolts that hang down from th front of the frame. The 70 hitch has a plate in the font that has two rows of holes that run up and down. Those let you adjust the hitch up and down and also left and right to foolow the tractor. Also look at the tail wheel if it has the long tail wheel its a good chance its a 70, if its a short tail wheel its a 60. If you can could post a picture?
As for a owners manual try ebay if no luck let me know since I have a relative that has all kinds of books for machinery and possibly I can get one from him. He is the one that Ibought the owners manual for ou 70 plow. We also have a 60. Can't be sure what I paid for the manual but Ibelieve it was under $10.

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Old Hickory

03-26-2004 22:41:26




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 Re: Re: Tripped IH 4-bottom plow in reply to hoover, 03-24-2004 19:48:14  
I will be able to look at the plow tomorrow and hopefully with the information y'all provided, I can figure out the model. I tried backing up with no success and then used a car jack to try to pop it back in place with no success. Just lifted the whole plow off the grown. Sprayed with pb blaster and wd40 yesterday but its still stuck. I guess I need to remove key and castle nut and try to free that way. Is there any possible danger when disassembling. I can't see any spring.

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paul

03-25-2004 09:34:21




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 Re: Re: Tripped IH 4-bottom plow in reply to hoover, 03-24-2004 19:48:14  
I'd only add that, if this plow hasn't been greased too well in the past decade & never tripped, now would be a good time to get some grease in there & get it working easy. It is possible it will not go back into place as easily as it should due to old grease & rust.

--->Paul



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Wayne M Kittler

03-28-2004 15:36:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Tripped IH 4-bottom plow in reply to paul, 03-25-2004 09:34:21  
I found by chance that if you put the torch to the hinge bolt, it will burn the old grease and rust out of it. This frees the swing up. Then oil it well, trip it if you can, reset and grease.



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Hugh MacKay

03-28-2004 18:46:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Tripped IH 4-bottom plow in reply to Wayne M Kittler, 03-28-2004 15:36:05  
Wayne: They should never have anything but dry lubricant.



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