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OK, 'nother silly question...

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Matt

03-22-2004 08:23:43




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When talking about haying, what's "Conditioning"

Best I can figure out, it seems it leaves it in fluffy rows to dry better while windrowed?

i.e. the Haybines cut & condition v. traditional cut first, then ted it, then later windrow it.

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Matt




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paul

03-22-2004 14:24:03




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 Re: OK, 'nother silly question... in reply to Matt, 03-22-2004 08:23:43  
There also were 'flail conditioners', but they are too hard on alfalfa so never got to be real popular. Kind of sort of a flail mower, I believe.

Most all involve 2 spinning rollers where the stems of the grass or alfalfa get crushed. Some were 2 metal fluted rolls, some were 1 metal & one rough rubber roll, and now most are 2 rubber rollers with a tractor tire pattern on them lengthwise.

Back in the day it was it's own unit to pick up mowed hay; then it got hitched with a pin & a pto extention behind the mower; then it got turned into it's own sickle mower/conditioner all in one; and now they have disc mower/ conditioner units.

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Hay Dunce

03-22-2004 08:39:31




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 Re: OK, 'nother silly question... in reply to Matt, 03-22-2004 08:23:43  
Conditioners genrally have to rollers that are like really long gears that mesh together the hay is fed through these rollers and crimped in between them this process cracks the stem open and allows the hay to dry much quicker than a un-conditioned product. hope i helped (and got it right)

The Hay Dunce



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Rob

03-22-2004 13:10:23




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 Re: Re: OK, 'nother silly question... in reply to Hay Dunce, 03-22-2004 08:39:31  
Yup, that's about it.|:)| N-H Called their early PTO pull type units (without a knife, like the #404) a "Hay Crusher".



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JMS/MN

03-22-2004 13:09:20




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 Re: Re: OK, 'nother silly question... in reply to Hay Dunce, 03-22-2004 08:39:31  
Early conditioners were machines like you describe, sometimes pulled behind a sickle mower, but at first it was a separate operation because mowers did not have extension pto shafts on them. The extra time delay was also an advantage, to allow some pre-drying. In each case the hay was delivered back to the field in a wide swath, and had to be raked later. The moco combined all three operations into one, which saved more time. Hay would actually dry faster if left in the wide swath, then raked, compared to using the moco, but the moco allowed the farmer to do other work while waiting for the narrow swath to dry. An undisturbed conditioned swath, if rained on, could still make some decent hay. But if it's tipped, then rained on, it's a lot like what's already been through the cow.

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