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bcwv

03-17-2004 14:49:23




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I am having a hard time deciding what to do about buying haying equipment. I cant make my mind up about a sickle bar mower or haybine. So please help. I am a newbie you know ; ) I have two questions. How much time generally does it save between cuting and baling by using a haybine compared to a sickle bar mower. And secondly do you rake hay after you haybine it or do you bale it by the rows the haybine has left. I will be round baling if that makes any difference. Thank You

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bcwv

03-18-2004 18:46:17




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 Re: Haybine in reply to bcwv, 03-17-2004 14:49:23  
Thanks everyone. I went and looked at a new holland 478 this evening. I plan to buy it and pick it up next week.



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Jim in michigan

03-18-2004 06:25:14




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 Re: Haybine in reply to bcwv, 03-17-2004 14:49:23  
I think haydr is a salesman and wants to sell somethin,, I would go with a haybine, you can find them cheaply and there are plenty aound for parts. Sickle works fine,,I use dthem for years until I was given a haybine. I still have several sickle mowers as backups, it also depends on what you have for tractor, if you have a small tractor go with a sickle, just my opinion



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Mike

03-18-2004 06:00:26




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 Re: Haybine in reply to bcwv, 03-17-2004 14:49:23  
For my area(Houston), cutting sorghum then a haybine at the least if not a disc bine. Cutting bermuda, native grass or a grass that is not stalky, a sickle will work fine. Disc mower, even better for these non stalky grasses. I use a sickle mower and cut a spot for a neighbor who does custom cutting and baling last summer when one of his tractors broke down and he was impressed at what my little sickle would do.

No experience with alfalfa at all. For some reason, everyone close to me that plants hay goes with sorghum or sprigs jiggs bermuda.
Good luck,
mee

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BobMo

03-18-2004 07:54:14




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 Re: Re: Haybine in reply to Mike, 03-18-2004 06:00:26  
Mike, your neighbor was being kind to you for doing him a favor. He didn't really mean it...



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Hay Dr

03-17-2004 19:20:50




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 Re: Haybine in reply to bcwv, 03-17-2004 14:49:23  
Forget anything with a sicklebar in it,1890's technology. The sicklebar mowers are for trimming creek banks,etc. You can purchase a new drum mower for less than $2,000 and mow blown down hay, mow hay in the rain, hay in the morning while the sicklebar & haybine guys are waiting for the grass to dry and you hay is curing. If you work a job and it's evening and you start to the field after work with a haybine or sicklebar mower when the dew falls you are done. With the drum mower you can mow till you are finished and not have to take a day off work to finish mowing. A disc mower will actually do the samething but for at least twice the money.

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Michael Soldan

03-18-2004 05:44:38




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 Re: Re: Haybine in reply to Hay Dr, 03-17-2004 19:20:50  
Hay Dr. I agree with you about the 1890's technology and have no doubts that the mower you choose will do a great job. I do have a concern about cutting hay in the rain or in a heavy dew, or when the hay is wet. It would seem to me that it would add further drying time to the hay as opposed to cutting when the hay is dry, correct me if I am wrong on this but it would seem reasonable to assume dry cut hay would cure more quickly than hay cut when it is in a wet from..just curious...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Roy in UK

03-18-2004 09:06:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Haybine in reply to Michael Soldan, 03-18-2004 05:44:38  
I used a disc mower but heck if I had stopped cutting every time it rained or if it was a bit dewy I would never have got anything done! A bit of sunshine and a good fluffing up with a tedder is a marvellous thing.



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Hay Dr.

03-18-2004 06:30:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Haybine in reply to Michael Soldan, 03-18-2004 05:44:38  
Moisture on the outside of the plant and moisture on the inside and two different things. If you start cutting in the middle of the day and cut 2 acres or less and hour you will waste a days curing time just mowing. You will never get the hay up if never mow it down. The drum & disc mowers have greater capacity and speed. Drying time and mowing time becomes a risk factor when you have a limited window of harvesting time. Throw in other gainful employment and the honey do list and you will need the extra capacity of the drum or disc mower.We farm a 1000 acres and NONE of our hay got wet (after mowing) last year, we had 65" of rain last year. We just use disc mowers and tedders.

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old

03-17-2004 17:15:33




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 Re: Haybine in reply to bcwv, 03-17-2004 14:49:23  
I used a sickle mower for about 20 years and about 2 years ago got a NH460 mower/conditioner and I'd never go back to a sickle. Hay dries faster and is cut better and its also wider so I'm not on the tractor as long.



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Rick

03-17-2004 15:24:14




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 Re: Haybine in reply to bcwv, 03-17-2004 14:49:23  
bcwv; I would do haybine it saves at least day in my area. It all depends on your humidity. Yes you will still rake as you have to get whats on the bottom turned up to dry. If weather cooperates I mow/ condition putting it in tighest windrow I can,dry day then rake next day just flipping half turn,then bale late in day. Also depends on what type HAY you are baling. Grass hay dries out lot quicker than good alfalfa hay.

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