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IH 430 baler

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Eric

03-09-2004 23:51:18




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I have recently aquired an international 430 twine baler that I plan to use haying this season. the farmer I got it from told me that one of the knotters was bad. upon insection of this knotting system, I figured need to learn alot about balers. can anyone tell me something about how they work or give me a site to go to and find out about these balers? Thanks




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Bill Smith

03-13-2004 19:05:02




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 Re: IH 430 baler in reply to Eric , 03-09-2004 23:51:18  
Spent quit a time a couple years getting one I believe just like yours to work right. First off, you will want to use 9000 (non-plastic) twine. You will want to have a good look at the knotter that don't work right. Make sure nothing is broke or badly worn and the knives have got to be sharp (able to cut twine). Rip off all the old twine and lase it up with the new rolls of twine (should be a picture inside the door on how it should be lased). Make sure the twine cannot hang up anywheres (should be able to pull it by hand and the springs should keep a little tension on it). I ussually thread it through the needles and pull about 3 to 4 feet extra through the needles, trip the bale tripper and roll the baler over by hand, and the baler should go through the knotter cicle and the needles will lase the knotters with the twine, and after it has completed the cicle you can cut the extra twine off right at the knives. You will be able to go now if everything is working right. It probably won't work right, so to make sure run just a dab of hay into it (atleast 1/2 a bale) and stop everything (shut tractor down). Trip the tripper, and have somebody turn the thing over slowly by hand while you watch it go through the cicle. You can see then how the knotters work, and what's happening if they are not working right. There is no way to explain how it works, and you will never see it work from the drivers seat. Watching it go through the knotting cicle is worth 10,000 words. The most common problems with these knotters is #1 the knives aren't cutting the twine (should be cut and has to be after the knotting cicle), and #2 the twine breaks before it pulls the knot off the knotter (the loopes of the knot should still be on the knotter after the cicle). You can pull them off by hand by pulling on the string but other wise they are suppose to pull off themselves without breaking the knot or string as the bale moves back by making another bale. Sorry for the lengthy post, but hope this helps. Post back if you have problems.

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Delbert

03-10-2004 17:54:27




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 Re: IH 430 baler in reply to Eric , 03-09-2004 23:51:18  
Eric i will try to give somethings to look at first there is alittle twine knife that cuts the twine if it is dull it will not cut the twine and cause the knott to untie. Second the twine bills themselves might be worn out. Can,t tell you how to check this unlees you have someone with a baler that has new knotters and you can compare the two. The needles could be out of time if they have been replaced or broken or perhaps they are worn out if they have a deep groove worn in them. Use sisal twine rather than plastic will help also. Not much to get out of time unless everything is worn out. Not much to go by but might be the things that will make it work. My ball park guess is the twine knifes.

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JC

03-10-2004 07:14:30




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 Re: IH 430 baler in reply to Eric , 03-09-2004 23:51:18  
You are on the right web pages for baler experts.
There are a whole bunch of knowledgable folks who hang out here, so don't be afraid to post on this forum.
First and foremost, you need to buy an operators manual and really study it. Then if possible, ask the farmer you got it from to show you the ropes and also to explain any quirks this machine might have.

Also, you may want to find a local ag mechanic that specializes in balers. Ask around, you should find somebody who is good.

I suspect that your baler needs a good going over, setting the timing, adjusting,freeing up and getting the rust off of the knotters, maybe replacing a worn part or two and thoroughly lubricating.

Good luck!

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