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Rodney

03-08-2004 09:00:38




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I'm looking to buy a bush hog, wondering what experiences people have had, good or bad, with the different brands. I've got Howse, King Kutter, Bush Hog, and Woods all available here locally, and wonder about the quality of the different brands. I'll be using one for some pretty rough stuff, brush really, not grass, so I need one that's pretty tough. Any experiences ya'll want to share?




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Bob

03-09-2004 12:19:39




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 Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 09:00:38  
Why don't you guys that responded to this just keep copies of your answers. That way when this question is asked again in about every 3rd day you won't have to do all that typ'in..... ha, ha.



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Jerry D in NC

03-08-2004 15:28:14




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 Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 09:00:38  
Rodney,
I don't know if you are looking at this as an ongoing endeavor or if it is one of those things where you have to clear 3 acres and then it will be maintenance from then on. If you are going to continuously do rough cutting then these gentlemen are leading you correctly. If you are doing a one time clearing project that is a couple to 10 acres that you are trying to reclaim then I would recommend finding a beat up old Bush Hog or one of the other brands tha has leaking seals and such and use it. You can pick them up around here for $200 as opposed to the $2000 + you will pay for the HD versions of the other mowers. After the rough stuff is done you can keep using the old mower till it dies or resell it for what you paid for it and buy a KK or other medium duty cutter for alot less money. I realize you get what you pay for but if you are cutting 10 acres twice a year to keep it clean then the HD Woods or BH is over kill. If you are doing custom work by the hour, I wouldn't have anything else.

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Rodney

03-08-2004 17:50:36




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 Re: Re: Bush hogs in reply to Jerry D in NC, 03-08-2004 15:28:14  
That makes a lot of sense. I've got about 3 acres of woods that I want to clean up, and the stuff I'll be cutting is mostly privy hedge, up to a couple inches in diameter. Some of it is bigger, but I'll take a chain saw to the bigger stuff. Once I get it knocked down and cut up, I'll only need a bush hog for maintaining it a few times a year.



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Mark

03-09-2004 05:54:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 17:50:36  
Jerry D speak truth. Wise man. My "Scottish" ancestors rest in peace on his words. Seriously.

Mark



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Jerry D in NC

03-09-2004 10:27:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush hogs in reply to Mark, 03-09-2004 05:54:36  
WOW If my wife would ever show that much respect..... LOL I have a handful of those ancestors myself...



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Mark

03-09-2004 19:00:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush hogs in reply to Jerry D in NC, 03-09-2004 10:27:08  
I just had to poke a little fun at this but I was serious.

Enjoy,

Mark



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Free Bird

03-08-2004 14:28:12




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 Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 09:00:38  
I own a King Kutter and two(2) sidewinders, there is no doubt which one I use for heavy cutting.. sidewinder that is tire driven wins hands down...



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Jerry/MT

03-08-2004 18:59:51




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 Re: Re: Bush hogs in reply to Free Bird, 03-08-2004 14:28:12  
Do they still make Sidewinders? Do they have a web site? I saw a picture of them once and thought that they had the slickest design going.



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JM

03-08-2004 14:02:39




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 Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 09:00:38  
We've had an M-5 Woods for about 30 years and it has taken a serious beating. A very good machine. Its also put a beating on the 8N (no slip clutch-foolish), but they're both still doing great. They helped us reclaim some very over-grown spots on the farm. I wish I could get the 10-20 going with a cutter like that to get rid of some rose-thorns, dont want to buy new tires, those things are vicious!!

Ok, the Woods works great, cant speak for any others.

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Indydirtfarmer

03-08-2004 13:23:31




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 Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 09:00:38  
I buy and sell some new, and a lot of used equipment. In addition, I farm, and do custom work. I have tried all the "major brands". I've tore up a few along the way. King Kutter mowers are OK, IF you don't push 'em too hard. They're light to mid duty mowers. High horsepower, or rough service will do them in quick. Woods and Bush Hog make what they call light, medium, and heavy duty mowers. Their "light duty" is as stout as King Kutters Heavy Duty model. The Woods and Bush Hog "medium duty" mowers are good for MOST applications. They are well built mowers. Their "heavy Duty" mowers will handle just about anything you can dish out. I have used one Rhino heavy duty mower. It was built like an anvil. Good piece also. Slip clutches are better than shear pin by a long shot. In heavy mowing, you want them to slip SOME, but not so much as to burn them out. You should once or twice a year, loosen the bolts on your slip clutch, and make it slip. They tend to seize up if you don't. High horsepower gearboxes are another good investment. They take a beating. With all the "possibilities" I ended up keeping a Woods mower for my light to medium chores, and a Bush Hog for the rough stuff. John

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Grant

03-08-2004 10:51:18




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 Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 09:00:38  
I know this wasn't a brand you listed, but we got pretty good service with our Deere (i think its a 513, maybe 531?) bush hog. Its a 5 foot deck, and we've put it through lots of hard demanding work. We're in the home building business, and we used it to mow lots with. We got it maybe 15 years ago, and have put it through miles of punishment. It went through every, and i do mean every type of terrain, We even tore through the woods with it, stumps and all. Although its beat now, and we have a bigger deck that we use, it was a great mower, and stood up to whatever punishment we gave it. The only thing we replaced was a shear pin, and that was 3-4 years ago. I dont like Deere tractors at all, but that was a great mower.

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marlowe

03-08-2004 20:31:55




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 Re: Re: Bush hogs in reply to Grant, 03-08-2004 10:51:18  
i hope you don't think your deere is a deere it's not it's a green bushhog brand



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Grant

03-09-2004 21:59:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Bush hogs in reply to marlowe, 03-08-2004 20:31:55  
This is the deck we had.

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Not the one that came from us but thats the one.



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Mark

03-08-2004 09:44:37




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 Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 09:00:38  
I have Bush Hog brand, JD, and King Kutter. I would recommend the mid to heavy duty BH for the following reasons.

Gearbox needs to be sized to tractor or bigger...60 hp tractor....65 hp gearbox I run a 65 gearbox on a 30 hp tractor...if you ever tear out one you'll get the message.

Slip clutch probably better than shear pin for what you said you were doing. Loosen it up so that it "almost" slips...course if it is a new machine it's already set....also keep this covered (out of the weather) so that it will work when you need it.

3 pt over drag.....guarantee will not regret it as the drive line never moves. On a drag, any time you turn, you are putting the drive at a peculiar angle..... ..... .obvious as it rattles like crazy.

Heavy duty running gear...rear wheel/tire/swivel and all take a heck of a beating...BH seems to be adequate.

Front protection...factory chains available, maybe rear too if anyone would get hit or mowing in urban area. chains protect you and your tractor from flying (really flying) bebris.

Don't forget to fill the gearbox before use.

I like my tractor tires out as far as I can go with my mower....30 hp tractor, 6' mower, outside of tire even with side of mower....safe and helps you to know where the deck is without having to look back all of the time.

Check the installation (if dealer assembled) to insure large bolts are where they belong and locking devices are used on ALL bolts....especially inspect where the A frame attaches to the deck. This should be a 3/4 in bolt or better, must be able to swivel (see below) and MUST have locking gear on it....preferable a locking nut. If your A frame detaches from your deck, the deck could cartwheel and either flip your tractr or hit you in the back.

If you mow on anything but flat ground, you need a device to allow the rear of the deck to raise above horiz on hills. Bh has the best approach here as they use a chain...It is there when you lift your 3 pt (to get the rear tire off the ground during transport) but gone the rest of the time when you want the rear of your deck to follow the terrain.


Be safe....walk it before you mow it....watch out for old wire along fence rows, and piles of old wire out in the pasture.

Be safe, good luck,

Mark

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del

03-08-2004 09:33:13




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 Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 09:00:38  
We went with a King Kutter when we were shopping three years ago. The yellow painted King Kutters are heavier than the blue ones. Other than a Rhino a fellow down the road has, I'll take my King Kutter over the Howse,Woods and Bush Hog's I've seen. Price wise and quality wise I am pleased



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Dick

03-08-2004 09:10:42




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 Re: Bush hogs in reply to Rodney, 03-08-2004 09:00:38  
Hi: I have used a Woods M-5, (I think) Dixie Cutter (Bush Hog) for about ten years on heavy stuff and not had any problems.



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Brian

03-08-2004 14:32:01




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 Re: Re: Bush hogs in reply to Dick, 03-08-2004 09:10:42  
I bought a Dixie cutter M-5 Woods second or third hand and was going to use it til it wore out & I'd buy a new one so it has never been babied at all. That was 5 years ago & it still cuts great.



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