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rob

03-03-2004 04:38:07




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I just traded my old planter yesterday, the new one has a liquid fertilizer set up, what are you guys useing? Can you blend liquids to get the nutrients needed by soil sampleing like dry or do they settle out, etc.?




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JMS/MN

03-03-2004 21:04:36




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 Re: liquid pop-up fertilizer in reply to rob, 03-03-2004 04:38:07  
When using fertilizers it's important to know the difference in terms in regard to application equipment, so you don't harm the crop. Pop-up refers to putting the fertilizer in the seed trench (it can contact the seed, so the amount must be limited or it burns the seed). Starter is also applied with the planter, but usually two inches beside, and two inches below, the seed. Amount can be much greater. Anhydrous ammonia is generally the cheapest form of nitrogen, applied pre-plant or after the corn is up (side-dressing). Fall injection of anhydrous is limited to when the soil temp is 50 degrees or lower, and on lighter soil, loss by leaching can be significant. When the additive N-Serve was developed, it allowed for a slower release of N, allowing for more fall application. Broadcasting of fertilizer is usually done pre-plant, although urea granules can be broadcast as a side-dress, and cultivated in. Broadcasting starter pre-plant usually requires higher rates to be as effective as starter put on with the planter, but is very effective in boosting low field fertility levels.

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Bill Smith

03-03-2004 12:40:13




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 Re: liquid pop-up fertilizer in reply to rob, 03-03-2004 04:38:07  
I have been around a planter with liquid fertilizer, but the system on this one is just used to put down starter fertilizer. It more less puts it right in the ground with the seed. Put down another source with different method for the major fertilizer like anhydrous ammonia.



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ShepFL

03-03-2004 09:08:06




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 Re: liquid pop-up fertilizer in reply to rob, 03-03-2004 04:38:07  
In the past I paid to have someone put liquid down. That yr. due to rain I lost everything. Due to leaching effects of FL soils I went back to granular fertilizer. It has been more effective for me due to the residual release.

This yr. I picked up an old John Blue side dresser to use on my AC D10. I generally run 10-10-10. When corn is at 2 leaf stage I hit it with some extra N and again when the ears start to fill out (hand dressing). Really makes that corn POP outta the ground and I get good full ears!!

Mind you, this is only on a small scale, I cannot afford the new stuff and still make ends meet.

MAY GOD BLESS YOU FULL TIME FARMERS!!

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greenbeanman

03-03-2004 07:08:28




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 Re: liquid pop-up fertilizer in reply to rob, 03-03-2004 04:38:07  
The area I used to live in had anhydrous dealers and liquid fertilizer dealers, no dry granulars sales at all.

Yes you can easily blend liquid fertilizers to get the right combination for your needs. However the dealer should be able to tell you the compatibility of the various ones before you purchase them. A jar test is one way to see how they react to each other.

Liquids are also a great way to add zinc, Iron, and micronutrients should you feel you need to add them. These are costly, but usually not much is needed. Zinc can really do wonders.

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kyhayman

03-03-2004 05:30:57




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 Re: liquid pop-up fertilizer in reply to rob, 03-03-2004 04:38:07  
Liquid fertilizer is an expensive way to apply very many pounds of nutrients. I'd continue to soil test and apply what I need as a broadcast for P & K (and N if you are like me an anhydrous ammonion is unavailable). For the liquid just a small application of a 7-14-7 or a 20-20-20 to give the plant an initial boost of particularly P right in the root zone. I raised corn for years and never put anyything on in the planter, just got a buggy and broadcast it.

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Larry NE IL

03-03-2004 20:07:55




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 Re: Re: liquid pop-up fertilizer in reply to kyhayman, 03-03-2004 05:30:57  
That's an eye opener. I guess things are different in different parts of the country. When I was farming (1970's) we all used dry start up fertelizer that was dropped with the seed. Then in the 2 to 4 leaf stage we would knife in anhydrous ammonia. I don't see that happening much around here anymore, but then in the 70's you couldn't put that stuff down in the fall without loosing most of it over the winter. Thanx Khayman for the trip back. Larry

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