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Paul Fox

08-14-1999 13:16:45

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Just returned from an implement scrounging trip. Came home with two, got an offer on a third. Thought about making this three separate posts, but decided to combine.

Question #1: I picked up a small disk harrow. I THINK it's a John Deere, can't tell for sure if that's green paint or mildew I'm looking at. Can see some part numbers on bearing housings, but haven't seen anything else. Question is, where should I look for logos or numbers that might help identify this disk?

Question #2: I also picked up an IH 2 bottom rollover plow. I found the newer type IH (I centered over the H) logo on the hubs. When did they change the stamp from IHC to IH? Any places to look to further identify this plow?

Question #3: I have a line on a Howse M60 bush hog at what seems like a reasonable price. The deck is solid with original paint, gear box looks good, tail wheel support has been welded up. I have a Woods M5 with a seriously tired deck. Question is, is Howse a good machine? Is $300-$400 a reasonable price?

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Jerry

08-18-1999 19:39:33

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Re: Lots of questions... in reply to Paul Fox, 08-14-1999 13:16:45

1.The worn out Woods is probably in better shape than a brand new Howse. The Howse is kinda like tits on a boar hog. If you pull it with a 30hp tractor or bigger the gear box will not stand it.
2. I have IH from the 40's 50's & 60's none of mine had IHC on them until the 60's.

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Dave Mischler

08-17-1999 19:38:33

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Re: Lots of questions... in reply to Paul Fox, 08-14-1999 13:16:45

I have a Howse MH5, which I consider to be in the crude but effective category. It is the next heavier 5' unit than the M60 (approx. 800 vs. 600 lbs). I got it from Central Tractor for $650 (my wife made me wait until it was on sale). It is not made nearly as well as a Woods or Bush Hog deck, but mine has eaten lots of brush, quite a few small (1-1/2" to 2") trees, several rocks, and some piles of dirt next to ground hog burrows with no ill effects except a rock-induced "crease" in both blades.

I had to disassemble and re-seal the gearbox very soon after I got it because water leaked in through the shims and made my 85w/140 look like something usually found in a baby's diaper. Blue RTV fixed that in a hurry. Indicative of the overall quality: I could not find a way to drain the lube out of the gearbox without taking off the front cover, including the input shaft, shims, etc. That was a PITA.

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Tom from Ontario

08-14-1999 18:25:14

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Re: Lots of questions... in reply to Paul Fox, 08-14-1999 13:16:45

Paul: Once the paint is gone, it"s difficult. Part numbers on castings might be your best bet. Take apart some small part of the frame or a scraper and see what's underneath. Give us another post with what you find.
2. Raymond Loewy designed the logo for IH in the late 30's, he"s the guy that did the bullet nosed Studebakers and the late 50's Cockshutts. I'm jealous, I've been looking for a 2 furrow rollover for years now and always hear about the one that got away. A day late and a dollar short as usual.Give us more description. Most of these old implements had their model numbers stencilled on and here again, once the paint goes, it's difficult. One look from the right guy and he'll give you chapter and verse.
3. Howse is not too bad at all I used one for a while, it worked well. I think all tail wheels get a real pounding. Price sounds good for this area. Good Luck. Tom

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Paul Fox

08-15-1999 04:31:46

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Re: Re: Lots of questions... in reply to Tom from Ontario, 08-14-1999 18:25:14

Tom, thanks for the tips.

Where in Ontario? I picked up the rollover because it was there. It's too much plow for my F14. What I'm REALLY looking for is a 2-12 Little Genius with a clutch lift.

Maybe we can work a swap???

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Tim(nj)

08-16-1999 08:22:21

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Re: Re: Re: Lots of questions... in reply to Paul Fox, 08-15-1999 04:31:46

Hmmm, sounds to me like that 2-way plow is an excuse to get another (bigger) tractor. You can't have too many, you know. :)

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Paul Fox

08-16-1999 15:35:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Lots of questions... in reply to Tim(nj), 08-16-1999 08:22:21

I like the way you think. Unfortunately there are two problems with that most excellent idea:

1. My wife :-(
2. I only got 4 acres, and an acre of that is taken up by the house, garage and various sheds. I gotta plan ahead to turn my F14 around!

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