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mobob

02-15-2004 06:05:15

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I would like to fine enexpensive bailer to have around to put up a few small bales,what would you guys sugest,I need to pull it with a 3000 ford thanks in advance

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Scotty

02-15-2004 12:05:25

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Re: square baler ? in reply to mobob, 02-15-2004 06:05:15

I grew up on the farm with a NH 270 that only broke down twice that I remember over abot 15 years at 3 - 5000 bales a year!

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Rick

02-15-2004 09:12:19

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Re: square baler ? in reply to mobob, 02-15-2004 06:05:15

mobob; Just for your info, neighbor has 14t sitting in shed. work fine when last used about 5years ago. $450.00. I would stay with deere balers in the early years period. Just my two cents

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Kelly C

02-15-2004 08:47:41

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Re: square baler ? in reply to mobob, 02-15-2004 06:05:15

Any New Holland and any older John Deere.
NH 68 ect maybe shy away from a NH66 they still bale but might have issues with the wood wad board.
NH and JD figured it out 1st so you have a better chance of finding a older baler that will do just that... BALE.
You could get lucky with a IH46 or a massey 12 but if you dont have a clue yet I would not get one.

The gist of it is. JD makes better bales but parts cost 3 times as much. NH makes great knots but may have to fiddle to get nice bales. Parts are much cheaper and easy to get.

Also dont expect a new baler for $200 if you are not willing to get your hands dirty learning how to fix it, buy a new $15000 baler.

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Glenn in Pa

02-15-2004 19:52:14

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Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to Kelly C, 02-15-2004 08:47:41

Hey Kelly,

Did you get those Decals? I'm wanting to see that baler dressed up!!!!

:>)

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Kelly C

02-15-2004 21:24:12

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Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to Glenn in Pa, 02-15-2004 19:52:14

Not yet there is still a few days to go on the auction. Of course some one with a brand new account bid up the price on me. Funny how that happens. Shills even on ebay.
Any way if the shill dont buy them back I am going to get new ones made at a sign shop as I am sure a old set wont have good glue on them any more. I may make some extras to sell on ebay to help off set the cost.

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wolfy

02-15-2004 12:55:34

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Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to Kelly C, 02-15-2004 08:47:41

Something like a NH 271. Kind of user friendly, easy to maintain, good for about a half million bales & even easy to grease.

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02-15-2004 09:21:57

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Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to Kelly C, 02-15-2004 08:47:41

Ah, memories. I stooked many thousands of bales behind one of those NHs while dad got to sit on the tractor. Hot and sweaty with alfalfa leaves and dust sticking to ya.

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02-15-2004 09:47:58

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Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to MK, 02-15-2004 09:21:57

I'd take a day of baling alfalfa over an hour of baling clover!

Mike

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paul

02-15-2004 09:43:48

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Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to MK, 02-15-2004 09:21:57

Yes to Kelly & MK. :)

I'd say a NH 68 - 271 would all be good balers if in good condition. JD 14T & 24T are as good. They figured out how to make dependable knots first, and knots are the whole point of a baler.

Stay away from something real off-brand or where you will have the only one in the county. It will be cheap for a reason.

--->Paul

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old

02-15-2004 08:41:01

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Re: square baler ? in reply to mobob, 02-15-2004 06:05:15

Jims right but you need to make sure that the knotters work well and bearings etc are good or that cheap baler will be a hurt on the back pocket fast. Just to give you an idea what I mean a bent bale needle for a 14T will cost around $150 for a used one. Also what ever you get make sure you have a dealer close by for parts and get a manaul for what ever you have. In my area you can find 14T, 24T JDs for around $200-$500 but you need to look them over good or you maybe getting a parts baler not a user

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Jim in michigan

02-16-2004 12:03:37

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Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to old, 02-15-2004 08:41:01

150 for a used needle? anyone wanna buy some JD balers lol.. I am buying a used 14t that wont stay in time,,baler comes with a manual, 20 bucks for the works is what I am paying lol,,,guess I should sell parts and get rich LOL...Jim

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old

02-16-2004 12:13:18

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Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-16-2004 12:03:37

Ya some times you can buy one cheap, but when you need parts hold on to your back pocket and hope you don't loose an arm or leg.

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Jim in michigan

02-16-2004 12:19:11

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Re: Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to old, 02-16-2004 12:13:18

Yup,,i know what you mean,,I got lucky on these,,the 24t was on a farm I cleaned up, it is like new,,I hauled a lot of machinery home from that one,,I got a NH flail chopper, a JD manure spreader , the 24T , a haywagon, a gehl chopper, lots of small implement and pieces, and bought 3 tractors from them,,,Jim

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old

02-16-2004 12:46:53

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-16-2004 12:19:11

Most be nice most of the time all I get is a hard time and high prices lol

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Jim in michigan

02-16-2004 14:53:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to old, 02-16-2004 12:46:53

LOL.. I am looking at getting a Thresher now,,its a old IHC ,, also on the property is a corn planter and a rototiller,,big ugly tiller...I will know in the spring if I get these or not..I also know where there is a 3pt snow blower and some other toys lol..Jim

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old

02-16-2004 15:34:50

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-16-2004 14:53:37

You sound almost as bad as I am, I have a cletrac in the works right now and if all goes well I'll be getting that this spring and maybe a couple of Allis's a WC and WD both with missing parts. But I have to wait on the Goverment and money before I can do any thing. Oh well I guess thats life

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Jim in michigan

02-16-2004 21:23:32

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to old, 02-16-2004 15:34:50

If ya need WD parts let me know,,I have a junker here with a lot of parts,,,,Jim

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old

02-16-2004 21:54:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: square baler ? in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-16-2004 21:23:32

I have a W9 speed patrol that is getting very weak has no oil preasure etc. it has a WD engine on it so I've been thinking about buying a WC that I know of that runs well and has new tires and just takeing that engine and putting in it and then resaleing the WC with the weak engine. I can get that WC for $950 and I figure the tires are worth at least $600. Jim by the way we posted a couple more pictures on the web site this evening

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Jim in michigan

02-17-2004 05:55:35

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: square bal in reply to old, 02-16-2004 21:54:31

I will have to check out the site then,,,, I have a rebuilt head for a WD, we bought the tractor non running but with the rebuilt head,,,Was told that it needed put together,,turned out the sleeves are shot. A wrist pin gouged the sleeves pretty bad,,,I have pretty much everything except the frontend and the starter now,,oh yeah,,the carb is gone,I put that on my Farmall Super C that I was using doing hay and I ended up selling the Super C and left the WD carb on it,,amazing how many parts will interchange with different brands of tractors,,,,Jim

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old

02-17-2004 08:23:06

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: square in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-17-2004 05:55:35

Ya Jim with carbs almost all of them will bolt on to other tractors and some times you can get a real power boost by doing so. I wish I had a carb for a 88 or 770 Oliver I'd put it on my 77, been told I'd get about 5-15 more HP by doing so.

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Jim in michigan

02-17-2004 12:17:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: sq in reply to old, 02-17-2004 08:23:06

I have a 4 cylinder distributor that came off of a Farmall M,,,I have used it on 7 different tractors, and the only Farmall it was on is the M it came from LOL...Jim

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old

02-17-2004 13:55:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-17-2004 12:17:56

Sort of strange how parts work where they don't belong, to bad there isn't a book that tells you what will go where. Bet if some one would write one up the would make a mint or 2 LOL

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Jim in michigan

02-17-2004 20:42:25

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to old, 02-17-2004 13:55:04

There used to be on for cars,, was called something like Hollingers Interchangeable Parts manual,, before our house burned we had one,,it was really old for old cars, but was interesting reading it....Jim

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old

02-17-2004 21:21:58

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-17-2004 20:42:25

Hey Jim how close are you to Grand rapids?? My mother in law lives up that way.
Also if you ever get down this way I have a couple of JD balers that you might like.

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Jim in michigan

02-18-2004 06:12:36

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to old, 02-17-2004 21:21:58

I am above the bridge in Yooperland,,quite a ways from GR..where is it you are at again?

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old

02-18-2004 08:11:00

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-18-2004 06:12:36

I live down in Missouri at the lake of the ozarks. See what you need to do is take a vaction down here and that way the wife gets to have her fun and you do also. LOL

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Jim in michigan

02-18-2004 09:25:41

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to old, 02-18-2004 08:11:00

LOL yeah,,, only place I ever been in Mo is a used to be town called Bradyville (spelling?) It is just across the line in Mo from Iowa,, granny lives in that corner of Iowa so for a hoot we crossed over, just to say I was in Mo lol...Jim

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old

02-18-2004 12:41:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-18-2004 09:25:41

By the way I'm going to pull the Nerd out today and get some pictures of it so when we get the film back my wife can post them on the web site so you can see what the front of it looks like. The Nerd is my 8N with the backhoe, you almost need to be a monkey to get on it the way the loader and backhoe is set up. LOL

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Jim in michigan

02-18-2004 15:46:52

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to old, 02-18-2004 12:41:28

Thats how ours is,,,and I am thinking running the hoe wont be all that comfy as the seat for the hoe is gone,,it uses a seat with a square shaft on it, the shaft goes into a square hole,, gonna make me one this summer...Jim

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old

02-18-2004 16:41:19

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-18-2004 15:46:52

On my backhoe you sit on metal, part of the frame of the thing. There was a seat on it but it sat up so high you had to be bent over to run the thing so I removed the seat. Been thinking about putting a tractor pan seat on since it wouldn't lift me up much if any. It was a nice day here, so I had my JD-B, My 801 and 8N ford and my farmall 450 running today. I also moved my farmall F12 into the shop so I can get started on it.

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Jim in michigan

02-19-2004 06:03:35

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to old, 02-18-2004 16:41:19

Was nice here too, it hit 40 yesterday so I decided to do a lamp projcet I was thinking of,,,was gonna make a old cartridge type fire extinguishe into a lamp,, I needed to empty the extinguisher so I gave it a try,, it started ok, then blew up in my hand,, wrist is pretty sore and has a cut and some bruising and I have a big bruise on my forehead, could have been worse though, and now its empty so I can make my lamp lol...Jim

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old

02-19-2004 07:13:53

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-19-2004 06:03:35

Sounds like you tried to empty it the wrong way, but what ever you did it sounds like you did it wrong. Sorry to here about that, guess you need to be more careful when you play. LOL

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old

02-18-2004 12:35:50

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-18-2004 09:25:41

Well where I live its a big tourist trap of a place, in the winter its not bad but in the summer you can't get from one side of town to the other with out people being in your way. Guess thats why I like it that I have a driveway thats a mile long and I'm out in the middle of no where but close enough to town to be able to get things easyly

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Jim in michigan

02-15-2004 06:46:29

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Re: square baler ? in reply to mobob, 02-15-2004 06:05:15

Any older NH, like a 66 or 68 , or a JD 14t or 24t, these are all great balers and can be had cheap,,at least here they are cheap,,,Jim

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