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Engine driven small baler

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Andy from NZ

02-07-2004 15:55:46




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Hi guys I have a NH 276 baler and without enough money to buy a tractor yet Im wondering about the idea of mounting a 65hp nissan diesel motor on a small trailer chassis driving a reduction gearbox at about 4:1 ratio and then have the baler towing behind this as it would allow me to use my 4wd truck for baling as well as everyday transport. I have access to the diesel engine and can build a chassis to mount it on, just wanted to know what you guys thought of this idea and prehaps a place or website where I could get my hands on a suitable reduction box. Thanks Andy

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JC

02-09-2004 08:39:08




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 Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Andy from NZ, 02-07-2004 15:55:46  
I admire those who are inventive, but you really need to buy a good honest cheap tractor. I have 4 old tractors that could easily handle a baler and I have $2000.00 into the bunch.
Your truck could pull a baler, but tractors were built to lug, yout truck wasn't. You would most likely overheat the truck.
I wouldn't gamble my truck for $500.00 (the cost of a cheap no frill tractor)
Good luck in whatever you decide to do!

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Bernie

02-08-2004 16:23:09




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 Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Andy from NZ, 02-07-2004 15:55:46  
I've been baling with an engine-driven baler for the last 30 years. One time, when the tractor broke down, I used the pickup to finish. I had my daughter holding a big bureau mirror outside the truck window so I could see the pickup on the baler. I rake round and round so there was no way I could turn short enough on the corners. I would say it wouldn't be an ideal system. JMHO



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M Farmall

02-08-2004 06:28:12




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 Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Andy from NZ, 02-07-2004 15:55:46  
is cheap, strong, and bales all day. Also cuts rakes and can be bought for less than the cost of building your rig, I bet. Look into it.



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Josh

02-08-2004 07:21:30




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 Re: Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to M Farmall, 02-08-2004 06:28:12  
I second this idea.



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Steve

02-08-2004 06:21:56




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 Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Andy from NZ, 02-07-2004 15:55:46  
Andy Some of the local Amish have done almost the same as you are thinking,recently saw a 4 cylinder Wisconson with a gear reduction mounted on a small four wheel cart with a pto shaft for a baler or small corn picker. The whole thing was then pulled by a four horse hitch. steve



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norbert kanzler

02-07-2004 21:06:46




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 Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Andy from NZ, 02-07-2004 15:55:46  
Check with your implement dealer around here you can rent a tractor for a short period of time (one or two weeks) for very little money



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Bob

02-07-2004 19:25:38




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 Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Andy from NZ, 02-07-2004 15:55:46  
You would need to rig up some kind of governor on that engine.



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Dave_D

02-07-2004 20:12:56




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 Re: Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Bob, 02-07-2004 19:25:38  
Kind of reminds me of the old dootlebug tractor built out of a model A and a truck rear end. Usually using 2 transmissions. Anything can be done. Good luck!

-Dave
Chico TX



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old

02-07-2004 19:09:09




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 Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Andy from NZ, 02-07-2004 15:55:46  
Many of the old balers had there own engine on them most where around 20HP, as far as pulling it with you truck I don't think that will work well for one thing speed might be to graet and you could not see what the baler is doing, and you do need to be able to watch them close. If you watch close you could find a small tractor for a cheap price and also use a small moter to run the baler if you need to

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Harrison

02-07-2004 17:32:54




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 Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Andy from NZ, 02-07-2004 15:55:46  
You are definitly thinking out of the box.Why not?people build amazing stuff everyday.Me, I would shop that diesel around,It would probably bring a pretty penny with these vegetable oil people or some one needing it.They are rare.Then I would buy a tractor and spend my time on that.Don't get set on a high dollar tractor, buy what you can afford and make it work so you can afford better.But if you build it let us know how it went.

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John51

02-07-2004 17:26:22




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 Re: Engine driven small baler in reply to Andy from NZ, 02-07-2004 15:55:46  
I don't know about the idea of using a pickup ..... might be pretty rough on it. But as far as the engine goes, that is really big to run a baler. Maybe you want to try what my Amish neighbors do. They mount a smaller engine (20 hp or less)directly on the baler and use a belt to the flywheel on the baler. I see a lot of them on J.D., N.H., and I.H. balers. Seems to work well at horse speeds and they bale a LOT of hay, including green afalfa that they wrap for silage.

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