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What fits a Ford?

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Jim in VA

02-07-2004 06:25:00




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I am new to tractors and have a question about implements. I just bought a 1957 Ford 861. I know my implements need to be for a 3 point hitch and sized for the tractor horsepower. What else do I need to consider? Anything different on the PTO shaft from one to the other? I am planning to use a blade, a box blade and a rotary mower.




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Rick H

02-16-2004 06:51:11




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 Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Jim in VA, 02-07-2004 06:25:00  
Where are you located in VA? I know a lot of independent equipment dealers here in the Staunton/Harrisonburg area. They sell 3 point stuff very reasonable. If you are near this area, let me know and I'll give you more details. They sell blades post hole diggers potato plows plows discs bush-hogs and etc.



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Jim.UT

02-10-2004 12:47:24




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 Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Jim in VA, 02-07-2004 06:25:00  
I'm kinda late on this, but I'll mention another point: your 3 point hitch is called a "category 1" three point hitch. You may see that listed on some implements. Cat 0 is for the little 3 point hitches on small garden tractors. Cat 2 is the really big machines. The differences are in the pin diameter and maybe the lower pin spacing (width of implement) but I'm not real sure of the details. Just stick to Cat 1 implements and they will fit your Ford.

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buck

02-07-2004 11:01:50




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 Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Jim in VA, 02-07-2004 06:25:00  

Well the 861 should be a 5 speed with live pto so the orc is not needed. Check it out to be sure. You will need at least 2 good top links. several top link pins and a bunch of lynch pins. If not already equiped a set of side stablizer bars will greatly help with the use of your equipment as they keep the eqipment from movin side to side. Your 861 should handle a 6' hog easily except in the toughest of stuff plus the 6' is near the width of your rear tires. Get a 7' back blade as it will cut out your tracks when angled a little and also check out the rear blades that pivot up on end to ditch with. a 6' box blade is also a good choice and make sure it has good scarfire teeth set up. Number of equipment dealers around Va. that can fix you up with brands like landpride,kingcutter. International Agco so check one of these out before you get too cought up in the auction deals. Lady and King in Bristol and Dubarly Tractor in Chester are just 2 of many. On the hog go with the clutch instead of the shear pin if you can handle the few extra bucks although if you know the area that you are cutting and don't think you will be shearing too many pins the shear pin type will work fine and if you get this type get a bunch of bolts for the shear pins.

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Tom in TN

02-07-2004 10:08:58




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 Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Jim in VA, 02-07-2004 06:25:00  

Jim,

One other thing that I would strongly recommend if you are on hilly ground. My Ford 2000, 3 cylinder gas tractor pulls a five foot bush hog very well, but the bush hog really pushes the tractor when going downhill. By that I mean that the tractor speeds up as a result of the bush hog's blades (flywheel) running faster than the PTO shaft, thus causing the tractor to act like the engine in running faster than it is. This is a very dangerous situation causing loss of control of the tractor when going downhill slopes.

I bought an over-running clutch from the Ford dealer for about $50.00. It goes onto the PTO shaft and allows the bush hog to spin faster than the PTO shaft without speeding the PTO shaft up. As a result of this, the tractor is in control when going downhill rather than the bush hog being in control.

I believe it to be a necessity for anyone with hilly ground.

Good luck,

Tom in TN (very hilly Tennessee, by the way)

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Dave

02-07-2004 10:55:36




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 Re: Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Tom in TN, 02-07-2004 10:08:58  
It is a nessary thing on any type of ground



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paul

02-08-2004 09:03:03




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 Re: Re: Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Dave, 02-07-2004 10:55:36  
An 861 would have a 2-stage clutch, so the ORC thing is built in, no need to add one. Very good advise for tractors with a transmision (single clutch does everything) clutch tho!


--->Paul



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Jim in VA

02-07-2004 08:41:17




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 Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Jim in VA, 02-07-2004 06:25:00  
Thanks for the help. Maybe next auction I can get a mower and blade. It does have the drawbar in tact.



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paul

02-07-2004 08:21:27




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 Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Jim in VA, 02-07-2004 06:25:00  
The standard pto size is 1 3/8" 6 spline shaft. 'Everything' should work with that.

Some of the early Fords had a 1 1/8" shaft, so a few older implements have a smaller coupler. And larger tractors & implements (over 65-90 hp) use a 21 spline pto shaft that spins about twice as fast, but you shouldn't be able to run anything that needs that much power....

You can also use towed implements, not just 3pt. You should have a drawbar, or at least the bracket for one, below the pto & rear differential.

--->Paul

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old

02-07-2004 08:20:39




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 Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Jim in VA, 02-07-2004 06:25:00  
That is what would be call a 2 bottom plow tractor, as far as the PTO shaft it is a standard size. HP is around 45, you should be able to run a 5 or 6 foot hog with it



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Leroy

02-07-2004 14:14:39




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 Re: Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to old, 02-07-2004 08:20:39  
That tractor was sold as a 3-4 plow model in the sales lit



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old

02-07-2004 14:27:49




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 Re: Re: Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Leroy, 02-07-2004 14:14:39  
That could be but in realty unless your in very good ground it will only pull 2



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Leroy

02-07-2004 15:10:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to old, 02-07-2004 14:27:49  
In my area 3-14"



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old

02-07-2004 15:15:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Leroy, 02-07-2004 15:10:15  
In my area I can pull a 2-16 with my 801 and even then its working hard



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Harrison

02-07-2004 15:23:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to old, 02-07-2004 15:15:50  
I agree with old 2 plows.It will do a better job and last longer.I also have a 6000 ford that they called a 5 plow tractor,even got the ad that says it.I work that thing pretty hard with a 4 bottom trip plow,five, I don't believe it.Maybe for people who live in "Perfect" the town in the commercials.



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jls

02-08-2004 13:57:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What fits a Ford? in reply to Harrison, 02-07-2004 15:23:26  
once rented a river bottom, loked like potting soil, had dealer bring out 5 bottom for 190 AC ran good, went back up the hill and barely handled it shallow in first(red clay) stayed with 4 bottom



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