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hay wagon running gears made out of truck chassis

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jackel,ind

02-06-2004 10:18:24




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I need to get me some wagons,but they run em up at the sales but i got an old chevy motor home with 1 ton chassis under it and i have thought about ripping off the body and makn a wagon out of it i would think it would work good.I also have a 55 ford f600 truck if i cant sell i think i might rip the body off it and do the same thing.fabricating the hitch and bed is no problem but i wonder if the suspension might give me fits.i wonder if i would need to fix it solid so it would not cycle.

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Hound

02-09-2004 19:07:05




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
Made one out of an old bus. Left the springs in it, quietest wagon ever used. Pulled the axles out and cut them off, put back in, no need to turn the rearend. Welded some expanded metal on it for a deck, on some old 3" channel. Reports on the weight are right, 5990lbs empty, but hold the fort, she can haul, 36 -3x3x8 square bales of hay, and tows awesome. Steering was the only thing that I'd do different. You can buy a front end off a heavy duty wagon, pretty reasonable, would go that route next time.

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Illinois Iron Hunter

02-09-2004 11:02:05




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
I helped the neighbor build a gear out of a truck last year. After one year of use, I helped him haul it to the scrap yard! They are very hard to back up and maneuver around, you can put a regular running gear right where you want it. I think buying a gear is well worth the money. Just my $.02!



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Indydirtfarmer

02-08-2004 08:36:26




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
My dad made a wagon out of an old school bus, many years ago. He added a second rear axle, from another bus. There was no problem with adding it, as there is no driveshaft in the way. That gave it a "tandem" rear end. The front "steering axle" was made from an axle removed from an old MF300 combine. The steering was copied from an EZ TRAIL wagon. For years, it had a flatbed on it. Last summer, I removed the old rotten bed, and made a rack for hauling round bales. With the heavy tandem rear end, you can load it heavy. I've put as many as 10 round bales on it. It tows well at 35 mph. That's all the faster I've worked up nerve to go! No mater how well it tows, I've still got to be able to STOP it! John

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JC

02-07-2004 11:27:44




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
I have an old home built sled thay uses the rear axle and front axle from an old IHC truck.
The frame is two heavy metal beams and the axles are attached to the beams, no springs or suspension. It has worked very hard for over 50 years. In fact, it is on its third bed. It is heavy and hard to back up, but I don't think I could find a better wagon for toughness.



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Bernie in MA

02-07-2004 07:48:40




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
I made a 20' wagon out of a crewcab 3/4T Dodge truck. It has a straight solid axle and one-piece tierod. I found that the pivot plate welded to the front axle has to be at the same plane as the ground (flat). If it isn't, the back of the hitch that is connected to the tierod will go up and down as the angle changes. Mine works good, only wanders a little at 40 MPH. It holds 24 bales to a tier,two wide 12 long. I can't do it, but with a good man throwing them up I've had almost 200 bales on it. The tires are 7.00x17. I welded pieces of square tube to the frame over the axles so it wouldn't come down enough to rub the tires.

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Jim in michigan

02-07-2004 05:54:52




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
Thats all we ever had around here and all I still have,, they work fine,, I have never had any trouble with them,, someone said getting the steering set up is hard,, its really not,, you make your hitch the make a plate that holds the tie rods,, thats it,,,Jim



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Fern(Mi)

02-07-2004 03:03:07




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
Somebody made one around here. When it got to bouncing and we lost a couple loads, that was is end. Never tried it nor cared to again.



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Hugh MacKay

02-06-2004 21:03:29




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
jackel: They work well for two wheeled trailers, just cut the frame where desired and fabricate a hitch beam. On 4 wheel wagon type getting the steering right is such a headache, you would find the auction quite economical place to buy. Like Rusty said weight is also a factor.



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Harrison

02-06-2004 20:07:53




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
I saw a homemade hauler made from a mobile home frame and axles.Looked ok. Sure had alot of hay bales on it.Don't know how long it will last,Just an idea.



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Josh

02-06-2004 11:38:31




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
I bought a running gear made out of an old (1930's?) IH truck really cheap. It has 20" wheels on it. It has steel blocks welded between the axles and the frame so the springs only have about 1/2" of movement before it is on the blocks. Surprisingly it is a decent running gear. It trails ok, and has had some heavy loads on it. I think i would buy a real running gear before i made my own out of a truck though. Someone did a LOT of work to make the conversion.

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rustyfarmall

02-06-2004 11:33:13




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 Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck chas in reply to jackel,ind, 02-06-2004 10:18:24  
I've seen a few of those creations. They have got to be one of the clumsiest affairs ever, not to mention the fact that you have all that extra weight which makes the wagon a load to pull even when it is empty. I would advise against it.



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jackel,ind

02-06-2004 20:50:02




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 Re: Re: hay wagon running gears made out of truck in reply to rustyfarmall, 02-06-2004 11:33:13  
yeah your probably right on the wieght part.didnt think about that but the land around here is fairly flat.i dont think the ih will have a problem though.that old ford truck has 20" wheels and decent rubber.thought i could probably get turn the old trucks into something useful beside somrthing for the weeds to grow around.I've got the steel to make pretty much what i need.just have to buy some lumber.

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