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Disc Whipping ?

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pete

02-02-2004 21:25:31




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My IH tandem disc goes to whipping back and forth when I have to move down the highway with it at anything over 17 mph. when it's raised, it's nearly balanced which I guess is part of the problem (not enough toung weight). Tried adding some weight to the front, didn't help.
Any ideas?




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MK

02-04-2004 10:56:20




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 Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to pete, 02-02-2004 21:25:31  

The old John Deere KBA's were the darndest things for swaying down the road. 10mph is about all you could do.



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thurlow

02-04-2004 15:12:03




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 Re: Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to MK, 02-04-2004 10:56:20  
We had a couple of AW John Deere discs in the '60s and '70s; single tube-type tongue; they would also whip back and forth. Implements with A-frame type tongues or those with braces would pull good; assuming not a lot of slack in bolts, drawbars, clevises, etc



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scotc

02-03-2004 22:16:24




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 Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to pete, 02-02-2004 21:25:31  
how much side play is there on your drawbar? Sounds like you have a lot, limiting that would help. Also use the biggest pin that'll fit both the drawbar and disk. I don't see where 17+ is such a big deal that's what a 1566 will do and its the slow one of our bunch.



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Brian in MO

02-03-2004 17:22:51




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 Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to pete, 02-02-2004 21:25:31  
Pete one thing to keep in mind besides what others have said is these wheel bearings are not designed to run at high speeds very long and need greased very often, they are really made to be pulled by tractors at tractor speeds not truck speeds. Not implying that you dont know this but just something to keep in mind. Brian



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wh

02-03-2004 12:26:02




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 Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to pete, 02-02-2004 21:25:31  
check your axel mounts and your hitch mounts. probably got some wear or warpage. have 2 tufline 10 ft wheel disc that we have pulled with pickup at 35-40 mph. they always run straight. yes that is too fast but when your at one place and need to be at the other you do what it takes.



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ShepFL

02-03-2004 09:28:49




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 Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to pete, 02-02-2004 21:25:31  
Pete -
I have no idea BUT what kind of tractor are you driving? 17 MPH - WOW!! That is pretty dern fast especially with an implement in tow. I am would just slow it down a tad and enjoy the scenery. If you need the implement moved quicker I would recommend trailering it. Better safe than sorry.
Just my thoughts



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kyhayman

02-03-2004 06:55:54




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 Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to pete, 02-02-2004 21:25:31  
You can go 17 with an IH?, mine is 8 mph tops. It will whip behind a tractor.



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Hugh MacKay

02-03-2004 05:08:40




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 Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to pete, 02-02-2004 21:25:31  
Pete: If you are running down that highway in excess of 17 mph you could have worse problems than whipping. Although I guess that whipping could kill you.

The other problem I was refering to is your disk suspension will not stand that. I have seen disks come crashing down on asphalt behind pickups. I have also seen disks sprung down on one side. Try disking with that and you aren't long sending it off to the scrapyard. Those disks are biult for tractor speed, nothing else.

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FM

02-02-2004 21:42:05




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 Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to pete, 02-02-2004 21:25:31  
Run a chain from the clevis(in between the clevis, behind where the pin goes through the drawbar) on the disk to one of the corners of the frame. Tighten it up with a binder(or use a comealong) and it won't wander. This takes all the slack out of the clevis and hitch and makes it trail straighter.

Mike



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Bob H nw Oh

02-03-2004 16:58:41




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 Re: Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to FM, 02-02-2004 21:42:05  
FM is right,I use a come along from the hitch pin to the corner of the front gang,takes out the slack,could pull 35 mph for 20 miles,like it wasn't there,HTH,Bob.



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rustyfarmall

02-03-2004 09:48:14




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 Re: Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to FM, 02-02-2004 21:42:05  
I agree, that method works very well.



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Adam R

02-04-2004 17:43:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Disc Whipping ? in reply to rustyfarmall, 02-03-2004 09:48:14  
Heck I always use the come-along with my 12' Massey disk. Other wise it wips all over the place even behind the M. I did fix it so it pulls better when I rebuilt the hich, I found a shaft as large as the hole in the clevis washered the sides of the clevis to prevent sideways movement, pounded the whole works back on to the disk and welded it in place, now it pulls well behind the tractor but when it is on the truck I still use the come-along for added safety.
Adam R

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