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Filling cells in planter plate?

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paul

01-30-2004 07:32:45




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I recently bought an old Dearborn 2 row corn planter, model 12-88. It is similar to a Ford 309, if not identical. This is to plant a 10 acre dove field with sunflowers.

It came with one set of seed plates, for medium or large sized corn. There are probably 5-8 sunflower seeds that fit in each cell. I did a little trial run (raised the planter and turned the wheels). The sprocket/chain combination was set for the longest seed spacing.

I turned the wheels enough to equal 30 traveled feet. Each planter dropped around 115 seeds, that's about 3" average spacing, but it's probably actually less because it's not dropping the seeds when the tooth of the plate is over the chute.

QUESTION: How can I make the cells smaller?

I thought about epoxy but my concern is that I might not be able to the the epoxy off the plate if I bungle it up.

Polyurethane? I've read where it can be shaped and grinded like metal if it's put in the freezer for awhile (or done outside, it's 18 degs today).

I've tried finding replacement plates (lincolnagproducts.com, Ford tractor dealerships, searching Ebay for months, etc) but have not found any. It seems like I'm going to be stuck with these corn plates and have to modify them somehow.

My main goal is to attract doves to a 10 acre field. There is some public hunting land about 30 miles away, the state plants it with sunflowers and the place is covered with doves. Last year I just broadcast and disked the seed and fert in, most of the field was pigweed. This year I plan on spraying preplant herbicide and using the planter.

Any tips or advice would be appreciated.

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Tom Brown

02-01-2004 03:16:16




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
Paul, if you should need any more seed plates, keep me in mind. I have several sets that I used to use for sweet corn.



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Pete

01-31-2004 19:03:25




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
Paul...I've used hot glue with sucess for exactly the same job. Same idea as bondo, just easier and faster.

Pete



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FM

01-31-2004 15:50:55




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
Paul,


I am not sure if your the fellow who emailed me a week or so ago. Anyway, Have you tried your local Ford-New Holland Dealership? I think they can get plates, but they ain't cheap.


Mike



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Paul

01-31-2004 17:32:12




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 Re: Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to FM, 01-31-2004 15:50:55  
Hi Mike,

That was me who emailed you. I tried several Ford ag dealerships in the area and on the East coast. None of them had plates. The model number didn't even show up on their computer. So I'm going to use bondo to fill in the cells then file away an opening big enough for the seeds.



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Mike

01-30-2004 18:49:02




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
Have you tried any feed stores? Around here alot of feed stores sell planter plates.



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Paul

01-31-2004 08:34:44




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 Re: Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to Mike, 01-30-2004 18:49:02  
I went to the co-op yesterday. they had at least 500 plates stacked up on shelves in a store room. Myself and a guy that works there both looked through the stacks and we couldn't find anything. All of there plates were for IH or JD.

Good suggestion though.



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Tom Brown

01-30-2004 17:02:04




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
Paul, a mig (wire) welder is the anawer- I speak from experience. I have a vegetable farm and use lots of odd sized plate cells. I used to own a 2 row Dearborn planter, now a JD. I took steel corn plates and welded in all or part of the cells and then ground them smooth to get the desired seed drop. I usually welded in more than I thought needed and then ground a little out , did a seed drop test, and if it was light, ground out some more until I had the desired drop. I've done this with plates for pumpkins, melons ,cukes, popcorn and such. If you don't have a mig welder, hunt up a repair/machine shop/ or a neighbor who does. As I weld the plates, I do not weld the entire cell closed at one time. I weld a cell 1/3 closed, then do another cell and keep rotating around the plate so that you don't put too much heat/ distortion in one spot. I've done this to over a doz. and never cracked or warped a plate. Your doing your seed drop tests correctly. Just keep in mind that under normal feild speeds the drop rate is normally a little lighter. I wish you well. The feild should be brilliant next summer when it blooms!

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Nebraska Cowman

01-30-2004 15:52:46




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
plant marijauna, the doves love it. If you have a few trees and a water supply you will have more doves than you need!



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Steve from Mo - bondo!

01-30-2004 11:19:51




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
After cleaning the plates, lay them out on a flat plastic surface and fill the cells with bondo. You can make it smooth enough with a plastic paddle and then shape the cells you need with a file. It won't last long, but you don't need it to.



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Paul

01-31-2004 08:39:22




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 Re: Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to Steve from Mo - bondo!, 01-30-2004 11:19:51  
I'm going to give this a try. Thanks.

The MIG welding as someone suggested on this thread would probably work better, but I don't want to do anything too permanant to the plates. Bondo can come off if I want it to, won't it? Heat, oil, heat+oil+abrasion, etc.



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FARMER JACK

01-30-2004 09:51:56




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
go to lincolnagproducts.com they have new plates for your planter to handle your requirements. about $10 a plate.



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Paul

01-30-2004 10:01:22




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 Re: Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to FARMER JACK, 01-30-2004 09:51:56  
I tried them and described what I needed for my particular planter. They had none. The person I talked to recalled that they had some people contact them last year for the same thing, but they did not have any, not even blank plates.



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Tommy D.

01-30-2004 08:59:47




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
paul,

I have a Cole MX-12, and I put duct tape over every other slot. This cuts it down by half, but still spacing might be a problem.
When I go back to planting corn, I just take the tape off....

Just a thought.
Good Luck!
Tommy D.



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JMS/MN

01-30-2004 08:54:44




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 Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to paul, 01-30-2004 07:32:45  
Would it be possible for a machine shop to start with a blank plate and cut cells the size you want?



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Paul

01-30-2004 09:41:44




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 Re: Re: Filling cells in planter plate? in reply to JMS/MN, 01-30-2004 08:54:44  
As far as I know, the plates are obsolete and they don't make any, nor any blank plates. I'm pretty sure that the current corn plates would have to be modified somehow. I don't want to modify them so much that the modifications can't be undone if it doesn't work.

Thanks for that suggestion though.



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