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kyhayman: about your NH650

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Earl

01-29-2004 20:43:28




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I saw in your post below you use your NH650 to make baleage. What moisture are you baling at. I have a NH 660 I've used on a lot of dry hay and straw, but never high moisture material. Do you have any special features or options to allow you to roll high moisture crops? How big of diameter bales do you roll? How are the drive gears on your rollers holding up, mine are about to the point of needing replaced, ever done this? Real curious about your baleage though, do you own a wrapper, what does that cost? Appreciate your help and other great posts on this site.

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kyhayman

01-30-2004 08:39:59




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 Re: kyhayman: about your NH650 in reply to Earl, 01-29-2004 20:43:28  
Hi Earl,

Thanks for the compliments :-). As far as my 650 goes, when I got it, it was 'well' used. Belts were quite worn and gouged (guy before me rolled corn stalks with it). I roll set on 4x4 for baleage. Makes all the roll I want on the front end of a 7710 Ford in the mud (feeding). For rolling you really need to reduce windrow size. Pick up wants to stall if not, and it halves ground speed over dry hay. Takes a lot of HP rolling, a 4x4 roll of alfalfa or soybeans at 60% moisture takes everything I've got in 86 HP. Roll moisture, I try to start at 60% and would like to stop at 40% but in reality I've made acceptable silage down into the low 30's. An example operation for me making baleage (until summer break, I teach high school) I try to cut on Saturday morning for 4 hours with a disc mower, go for lunch, grease rake, rake for 4 hrs (wet hay rakes slow). Roll on Sunday morning and wrap Sunday afternoon. I've used individual bale wrappers that I rented (and would quit 'wet hay' if I had to use one again). Our county Farm Bureau bought a Tube-line which they rent for $1.00 a bale and you furnish plastic. My next door neighbor has an Anderson (inline) and I usually hire him. He wraps thousands of rolls a year and charges me under $3 a roll including plastic, twine, and use of his skidloader. No special features on my 650 (but I did put crowder wheels on the front this winter for dry hay along with some new belts), it's a right off the lot hay unit. The scraper kits dont clean the one roll that needs it (so I clean that roll by hand after I finish) so I didn't buy them. Never chaged out the gear sets, sorry I cant help on that. Mine still have nice square points.

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David

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Earl

01-30-2004 18:07:33




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 Re: Re: kyhayman: about your NH650 in reply to kyhayman, 01-30-2004 08:39:59  
Sounds like you and I got similar rigs. I have a Ford 7700 pulling mine, probably a lot older than your 7100, but it is a great tractor. I run in dry, alfalfa 9' windrows, double raked, in 5-HI. My dad couldn't believe when I came back from baling a 10 acre patch in 1.5 hours. Seems to me the faster I keep moving, the less the bale rolls and the fewer leaves lost. the NH660 seems like a good match for the 7700. I thought maybe I would need special scrapers or something to make baleage, I guess my main problem is finding a wrapping unit, would make 1st cut a lot less stressfull and would be able to bale up rye and triticale too. Appreciate your input. Best a cheapest way is still to let the cow harvest it, but we do have winter.

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BFarr

01-31-2004 08:04:22




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 Re: Re: Re: kyhayman: about your NH650 in reply to Earl, 01-30-2004 18:07:33  
Kyhayman
First of all on the talk forum, I see your teach AG Ed. On that note, hello and note that I have appreciated your posts the last few months. I also teach general Ag. ..30 years in NH

Second, I am changing to silage bales this year and have studied the literature. However, without the lab treatment, how can I get a ballpark estimate of moisture content. It seems most haying this way cut half day then bale but each of us have different climates to contend with

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