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paul

01-28-2004 07:23:51




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The short version:

Which is better, or pros/ cons, of a Toxowick vs Behlen PTO grain dryer? Assume 500 bu & about the same condition....

Been looking at Toxowicks, but now Behlen's are shaking out of the woodwork & don't know anything about them.

--->Paul




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signman

01-30-2004 06:24:12




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 Re: pto corn dryers in reply to paul, 01-28-2004 07:23:51  
In reading through your discussion you may want to look at an American dryer. They are very similar to the FF although the automatic moisture adjustment isn't there. I once had a 1503 unit that would run complete on a 60 amp service. It dryed 78 bu per batch. Doesn't sound like much but with unloading time and drying time is 6 minutes per point. Leaving you able to completely cycle removing 10 points in an hour and a quarter. 5 percent removal cut your time to 45 minutes getting you to about 2200 bu/day.
We currently run a 2412 which dries 224 bu/batch and the same timing as any other American. This dryer is operated on a 100 amp circuit completely from loading to unload. The trick is not to be a long distance from the transformer. Our drying costs are about half of what we were in a bin dryer with sukup. The Electric cost is much less. We have taken out average of 8 points on 33,000 bu. at $224 electric cost. This included all bin aeration and electric load and unload of the dryer and electric transfer to 3 other bins. Keep in mind that I burnt 120 gallons of gas for these same bushels to auger the wet corn into the holding bin. I sure wouldn't want to run a tractor on the dryer at todays fuel prices.

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JMS/MN

02-01-2004 21:51:46




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 Re: Re: pto corn dryers in reply to signman, 01-30-2004 06:24:12  
I agree- that smaller American was a unit I looked at- don't know about parts availability now, but it was a good option for the smaller operator. One of two or three worth considering back then.



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JMS/MN

01-28-2004 11:35:36




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 Re: pto corn dryers in reply to paul, 01-28-2004 07:23:51  
First thing is to check for parts support. Toxowick was popular here 25 years ago, but it is a babysit dryer. Need to time the drying time for each batch, adjust for wetter/drier corn. Put up a drying bin in '76, many problems with a Sukup (rhymes with another word) stirator. Bought Farm Fans AB8B (125 bu) automatic dryer in '89. Set it once for the season and the override TSAT compensates for wetter corn. Runs out at night and shuts off. Paid $2800 for it. Will dry 200 bu per day- need a wet bin in front of it for auto feed. Bin loading auger plugs in to the control panel and it runs by itself. Good one-man operation.

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JMS/MN

01-28-2004 11:36:25




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 Re: Re: pto corn dryers in reply to JMS/MN, 01-28-2004 11:35:36  
Typo- should be 2000 bu per day.



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paul

01-28-2004 12:27:25




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 Re: Re: Re: pto corn dryers in reply to JMS/MN, 01-28-2004 11:36:25  
That's a good price on the FF. Watched one that was old but well maintained sell for $1200 2 years ago, sniff sniff.

UFC supports parts for most all drying systems - they service & sold a lot of Toxowicks over the years, people come up from mid-Iowa for parts on many brands, so I'm blessed with that, but I would check for sure of course. Can get a Tox or other pto model for $500-1000.

My problem is it probably takes a little more than 60 amp power service to run the Farm Fans, plus I live on a hill that does not lend itself to a permenent grain setup - long feed lines from the transformer to the grain setup. Gets real expensive real fast, & I live 1/2 mile from the coop elevator..... But storage & drying are expensive also...

Year-a-Round is about to release their corn-burning corn dryer - seems interesting as corn prices stay low & LP prices keep raising, but it really wouldn't make a diff on the electicity, as that need is driven by airflow, not fuel source. Also I learned not to be the first to test something new....

Like your solution tho, I'm not counting it out. :) I believe some of those FF run on a 70 amp fuse set, probably need 100 amp to the grain setup to make things work?

--->Paul

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JMS/MN

01-29-2004 07:12:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: pto corn dryers in reply to paul, 01-28-2004 12:27:25  
Probably misled you on price- The FF is a '79, bought for $2800 in '89. Actually they went cheaper (2000) a couple years before, but Dakota farmers had wet wheat and bought many.....cleaned out many from MN. It does have a 100 amp box on it- main fan is 7 1/2 hp. Just remembered- guy sold me a stalk chopper this summer- has one with wet bin....think he wanted 15-2000 for the pair. He was in the LeSeuer, Cleveland? area. email me for his number- I'm sure I can find it.

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paul

01-29-2004 09:32:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: pto corn dryers in reply to JMS/MN, 01-29-2004 07:12:04  
Oh yea, that grain company by Le Sueur sold a ton of those, one on almost every framstead! :)

With holding bin? Good price. Actually the drier is the cheap part - upgrade electrical, install LP - that's where the money is.....

--->Paul



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Jerry D in NC

01-29-2004 10:09:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: pto corn dryers in reply to paul, 01-29-2004 09:32:34  
Paul,

YOu have one other option that might make sense. Use a PTO driven generator to provide electrical when needed and still have the generator for other tasks



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