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Hooking implements together to save fuel.

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greenbeanman

01-26-2004 14:00:14




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Okay, recouping from the flu, snow on the ground and am getting cabin fever from being in so long.
New topic.

What, if any, are some of the implements you have used in tandem to save fuel?

One combination that worked for me was----
I had deep Vee fertilizer tanks on my tractor and would apply liquid fertilizer while discing. I had sectional booms on the front of my disc and it worked well. I also incorporated herbicides with a shallow discing. (Late 1970s and very early 1980s.)

My father and I also used to like to do a final tillage right before drilling wheat.

One day I hooked the grain drill right on behind the disc. This allowed me to fertilize, disc, and drill at the same time. The drill was close enough to the size of the disc that I only overlapped about 6 additional inches. When I turned a corner the disc would actually kind of pivot in one spot and would pull the drill up into a tighter corner than when pulling it with a just a tractor.

Success. What have been yours?

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FM

01-27-2004 18:50:42




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
I've pulled both a double packer and a cultimulcher behind my 8' disk. Wish I had an 806 or 1066 so i could hook a 12' disk, 12' mulcher, and my 4RW planter all behind each other. I never thought about it but I bet I could hook my drill up behind the disk and plug up a couple holes and get it to work..

Mike



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John A

01-26-2004 20:44:53




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
Greenbean, Cotton boys down here in Texas pulled 4 row non/folding shredders and a 4 row disk. This was done a lot. Also...While planting corn...apply chimical then incorporate with a Liliston rolling cultivator.
Same as above with a 6 row Ferguson Til-rovator. This over grown tiller also had bed shappers.It would gut the H_ _ _ out of a jd 4640 (155 hp)
Later,
John A.



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Bernie in MA

01-26-2004 17:31:36




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
Back in the 60s I did all my tillage with a JD420C. I pulled a 8' disc with a railroad tie crosswise to smooth, a 8' drill behind it, and a homemade roller on the end. Because of the pivoting action of each piece I could turn the whole 40' on 12' headlands.

Now I just make hay. I put a hitch on the back of the pinwheel rake so I can pull my old Grimm wheeldriven tedder/fluffer behind. I turn the windrow with two wheels the second day and ted it in the same trip.

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Larry806

01-26-2004 16:55:49




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
I didn't have extra tractors or help to run them. I had 400 gal tanks on my 806 I put a boom right in front of the duals to spray I pulled a 15 ft mounted field cultivator, right behind that was a 15 ft mulcher & you guessed it the drill was on the back. I've sowed thousands of acres of beans like that untill we started to no till I've got some pic's of it somewhere around here



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Larry NE IL

01-26-2004 16:46:27




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
Back in the mid 70's I did the same, spraying amonia mixed with herbicide. Worked great, but that fertilizer turned the disc and the back of the tractor to rust in no time!!



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Adam B.

01-26-2004 16:43:27




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
Grandpa and dad used to have a Brillion Culti-mulcher in front of a John Deere end-wheel drill. They used that arrangement for years.



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T.J.-N.J.

01-26-2004 16:39:01




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
If I ever get what I want to work on in the shop instead of what I have to work on, I am going to finish up the hitch on the back of my sickle bar so I can pull my crimper behind the mower. T.J.



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thurlow

01-26-2004 16:24:17




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
For years I've pulled my grain drill (JD 8300) behind a scratcher-type do-all (without the leveling board)..... both 12 ft



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Fern(Mi)

01-26-2004 14:48:27




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
This isn't any brainer. The best I can contribute off hand I've disced and dragged at the same time. Oh, have hauled hay on wagon and trailered yard tractors to save a couple trips. `N', how about pulling down dangerious tree limbs with the wood haulin' trailer because it just happened to be in between. That's it for now. I don't want to over tax my brain.



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Michael Soldan

01-26-2004 14:05:27




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 Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to greenbeanman, 01-26-2004 14:00:14  
Greenbeanman, you are saving time ..is there a fuel savings? I am wondering if two passes would use more fuel than one pass at a lower speed(gear) and higher rpm's in other words aren't you going to use more fuel to pull tandem and triplet equipment than two passes over the field...just curious...Mike in Exeter Ontario



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Butch

01-27-2004 07:32:23




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 Re: Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to Michael Soldan, 01-26-2004 14:05:27  
Think about it a minute. The power requirements for each implement are the same if you pulling one or 21 of them hooked together. Tractor does not pull it self around for nothing. Now, ask yourself again, is it going to take more fuel pull two implements at once or one twice? As long as the tractor is capible of pulling the equipment it cheaper to make less passes, period



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Michael Soldan

01-28-2004 08:01:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Hooking implements together to save fu in reply to Butch, 01-27-2004 07:32:23  
"as long as the tractor is capable" is the operative Butch. My post clearly said that if you have to drop a gear or two to pull it I am wondering if there is a savings!.....Mike in Exeter Ontario



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greenbeanman

01-26-2004 17:36:11




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 Re: Re: Hooking implements together to save fuel. in reply to Michael Soldan, 01-26-2004 14:05:27  
Good point, and my goal was indeed to save time. Honestly I don't remember about the fuel consumption. That was over two decades ago and I no longer farm on the scale that I did back then.

No harder than a drill pulls, or a disc pulls on the final pass of the season, I really expect that a person would save quite a bit of fuel.

There was a campaign years ago, "Gear up, throttle down". At least when you can as the saying went. Wonder what ever became of it?

Sounds like some other good ideas here too.

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