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JIM IN NY

01-23-2004 17:28:23




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We are in the market for a discbine for the upcoming season. Looking for a 12-13 foot model. We farm rocky ground. Kind of leaning toward a JD.Any input,pro-cons will be apreciated. thanks!




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MK

01-25-2004 05:53:46




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 Re: DISC MOWER CONDITIONERS in reply to JIM IN NY, 01-23-2004 17:28:23  

I've had my JD 920I since '95. Can't say anything bad about it-no troubles so far other than normal blade/hat replacement. The CaseIH is a good machine too. Lots of them in use around here. Two things I don't like are less oil capacity in the gears and if you hit pocket gopher piles it will streak 40' or so. JD's seem to be able to clean the dirt out much quicker with almost no streaks. As for rocks, a few farmers here cut with open station tractors including me. Most of them mount a piece of high impact plexiglass behind the seat. I bolted two 1x1 tubing 6' long on the top of the lid with 3 1x6 boards screwd on hanging in front of the lid. This eleminates the angle for rocks to nail you.

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Dean Minnesota

01-24-2004 13:23:29




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 Re: DISC MOWER CONDITIONERS in reply to JIM IN NY, 01-23-2004 17:28:23  
The biggest risk with any disc mower is hitting a rock and having the blade or rock break up and fly towards the operator. I had a small piece fly through the windshield about 12 years ago. If a blade is even a little bit damaged, change it immediately to reduce the risk.



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zoidberg

01-24-2004 12:27:29




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 Re: DISC MOWER CONDITIONERS in reply to JIM IN NY, 01-23-2004 17:28:23  
We use a Case IH 8312. It is the best hay cutting machine I've ever used. Simply unstoppable.



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DiggerDave

01-24-2004 08:52:12




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 Re: DISC MOWER CONDITIONERS in reply to JIM IN NY, 01-23-2004 17:28:23  
Another thing, The JD I use the blades get changed in the front fast and easy. The N.H. the blades get changed with the bad blade on the turtle, turned towards the back and the bolt has to line up with a hole so the bolt will drop thru to change the blade If you are mowing nice moisture laden hay, its messy. And if your mowing pasture, its really messy. Rotational Grazing, I mean This blade changing alone is enough to make me get the J D

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d.wilcox

01-24-2004 08:44:22




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 Re: DISC MOWER CONDITIONERS in reply to JIM IN NY, 01-23-2004 17:28:23  
Try to get the one that swings from one side
to the other hydraulicly, and mows on either side of the tractor. Its a big help on these hill farms in N,Y.



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Adam B.

01-23-2004 21:21:10




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 Re: DISC MOWER CONDITIONERS in reply to JIM IN NY, 01-23-2004 17:28:23  
We made the transition from New Holland Haybines to John Deere disc conditioners several years ago. The first switch was to disc/rubber rolls and we were very happy with them. Then a couple years ago we traded them for ones with the impeller conditioner and we're thrilled. You can adjust the impeller to barely touch the crop, or to shatter heavy stems for extra-fast drying.

We've had pretty good luck with them as far as rocks go. When you do catch a good-sized rock, usually the worst that happens is you bend a blade and have to stop for a couple minutes to swap it. It takes quite a bit (big, big rock) to actually shear one of the pan drivers, and those can be changed pretty quickly as well.

Biggest complaint would have to be the crappy flashers JD chose to put on this machine. The bulbs are too fragile for the application, and if the bulbs don't break, the colored lenses fall off. That's about it. No real service issues and they'll slay hay all day. I especially like that the heavier the crop gets, the better they seem to work.

I can't speak for other disc mowers, because I haven't tried them, but we're very happy with these 935's.

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Hay Dr

01-23-2004 19:52:23




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 Re: DISC MOWER CONDITIONERS in reply to JIM IN NY, 01-23-2004 17:28:23  
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Just take a look at the Vermeer Disc Pro 1030. The Vermeer has the most advanced float suspension system for all discbines. No rubber rollers to delaminate or chunck out but 2 steel rollers that handle everything from gentle crimping to agressive crushing for cane-type crops.

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