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IH Sicklebar mower ID

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Dave

01-19-2004 16:50:07




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Hi guys,
I have acquired a older 6' IH Sickle bar mower. It is belt driven from the PTO and has a pittman arm on it. Can anyone give me an idea of what model this might be?? I cant find a serial# on it, but maybe one of you guys can tell me where it might have been located. I will post a pic if needed.

Thanks, Dave




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Dave B

01-20-2004 16:53:59




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 Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Dave, 01-19-2004 16:50:07  
Hey guys, I have all my pics posted at this site. Head over here and take a glance at it. It may be a "mutation"!! Question is??? how do I get the swing arm to pick up with the arm if the unit is attached to the 3PH??
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Thanks,

Dave in TN



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Jim in michigan

01-20-2004 07:33:53




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 Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Dave, 01-19-2004 16:50:07  
mine is a 25 C if I recall right,could have been 27C, it mounts on the drawbar and trails,,I also have a older hanging type ...Jim



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Hugh MacKay

01-20-2004 03:30:27




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 Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Dave, 01-19-2004 16:50:07  
Dave: Is this mower trailing, semi mounted or fully mounted. The actual drive mechanism on all these mowers is very similar. The mounting however creates a lot of models. For example there was a 16A, 16B, 16C and 16HM. The letters indicate tractor it will fit. The newer C-28 fast hitch mower actual drive line and mower bar was very similar to the 16.



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Dave

01-20-2004 08:02:36




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 Re: Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-20-2004 03:30:27  
Hugh,
This one mounts on my three point hitch. There are casting numbers on some of the parts, but I don't think that would help. There are three chains on this unit, also. 2 chains are on the right hand side (facing implement from back) and 1 chain is on the left hand side. The one on the left is connected to a arm that runs length wise through the mower housing and emerges on the other side, connecting to the swingarm (sorry, don't know the tech terms on these) the the sickle blade. It appears this somehow keeps the sickle bar from sliding on the ground during transport. Acually, this is what I was working up to, to ask. Where does the chain on the left side hook up to to lift the sickle off the ground when the 3ph is lifted up. Ok, do I have everyone confused now??

Dave in TN

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Bob Brown

02-13-2004 22:24:15




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 Re: Re: Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Dave, 01-20-2004 08:02:36  
Send me the casting numbers and I should be able to match them to a model number. Can make copies of parts manual if it is listed. Email



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Hugh MacKay

01-20-2004 08:28:32




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 Re: Re: Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Dave, 01-20-2004 08:02:36  
Dave: From your description I feel quite sure you have a C-28 mower. I don't think I mentioned this on earlier post, but that mower was available in either fast hitch or 3 point hitch. There was also a host of kits that came with these depemding on tractor you are going to use. E mail me a photo, I may be able to figure out what kit you have, although I am sure I haven't seen them all. May be best to place photo on YT. Someone will recognize. Get good shots of those chain linkages you speak of.

By the way C-28 is the only pitman drive 3 point hitch mower IH ever built. It is in the 1968 buyers guide. 1968 would have been near the end of production as the balanced head mowers are also in that buyers guide. The fast hitch version first came out with the Super C in 1952?? The 3 point came a bit later, I suppose to match British diesels in late 50s.

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Dave B

01-20-2004 11:39:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-20-2004 08:28:32  
Hugh,
Posted 1 pic so far in "implement photos" under this title: "unknown...help by dave b"
I have more photos, if you need them.
Thanks,

Dave in TN



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Hugh MacKay

01-20-2004 15:32:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Dave B, 01-20-2004 11:39:32  
Dave: Something doesn't look quite right. Do the pieces of steel that lower link pins mount in, look like fast hitch forks that have been cut off? Does the frame work for the top link look as though it is an add on? How familiar are you with fast hitches? That mower looks exactly like my brothers fast hitch version with the forks cut off and the A frame for a top link added.

The picture of the C-28, 3 point, in the 1968 buyers guide shows the mower from the cutter side, so is a bit hard for me to compare. It has been years since I've been around the 3 point version, but that doesn't look just right. Why don' you run an new thread asking guys with C-28, 3 point mowers to have a look. Perhaps it may be best to just say IH, 3 point hitch, pitman drive mower. There is no question in my mind it is a C-28 mower. I'll be watching. Give me some answers to questions I've asked here. Did you by any chance try typing in IH mowers on implement photos and click on search?

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Van

01-22-2004 08:52:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-20-2004 15:32:03  
Hugh, I do believe that is a fast hitch mower with the prongs cut off. My dad had a fast hitch mower like that in the 60's. We sold it in the 70's and got a 3 pt balanced head mower to replace it and it had the hitch hoop.
Reguards, Van



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Dave B.

01-20-2004 19:43:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Sicklebar mower ID in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-20-2004 15:32:03  
Hugh,
A couple of guys at WWW.tractorbynet.com have pretty much diagnosed what happened with this unit. It looks like oyu were right, this was a 2 point mount unit, and someone converted it into a 3 point. The chain attached to the arm on the left hand connects to the drawbar, so that when the main unit is lifted, it lifts the sickle tip, also. If you go over to that site, under attachments, you will see the thread on 6' IH sicklebar mower". I posted the rest of my pics over there, due to the ease of attaching pics with your messages. So, it looks like this is a converted C-28, which means the pittman should be around 35 11/16" long?? I appriciate all of your help on this issue. You wouldn't know where I could pick up a manual or some type of lititure for this machine, would you? Thanks again.

Dave in TN

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