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Bill

12-23-2003 09:48:44




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I have a few acres I'd like to bale and am wrestling with cost issues with buying and maintaining a mower and rake. I would like to buy a NH 451 sickle bar mower, but new they are about $3500 vs about $1800 for a CCM drum mower. If I look for a used 451, the prices I have seen are about $1800 for a used 451 = the price of a new drum mower. Futher, the cost of an older sickle bar (other than a NH) is $500 at the low side on average. Adding in the cost of new guards, sickle sections and the aggrivation of it, I am wondering if I should simply get myself a drum mower.

As to the rake, I see rollabar rakes for sale used for $800 and up, yet I can buy a 4 wheel rake new for less than that. And again maintainence of the rollabar rakes is expensive (teeth and bearings) whereas there is not much to a wheel rake.

What are your thoughts on this stuff?

Thanks!
Bill

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Hay Dr

12-24-2003 18:51:43




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 Re: Hay Mower Rake Questions in reply to Bill, 12-23-2003 09:48:44  
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CCM drum mowers



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Michael Soldan

12-24-2003 05:34:58




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 Re: Hay Mower Rake Questions in reply to Bill, 12-23-2003 09:48:44  
Bill, in the off season have a good look around fo equipment. I bought a Massey Ferguson 925 haybine for $1100 and it runs like new. I have small acerage and for 15 acres of hay twice a year I didn't want to tie up a whole lot. I have an old New Idea bar rake that I got out of a guy's bush for the taking. I pumped up the tires, greased it and put about 30 new teeth on it. I've used it for 4 years and haven't had to replace any teeth yet. I did treat it to a paint job two years ago and the rake looks like new now and runs like new. I have an I-H 3 point sickle mower in good condition but I was always bunging it up , backing up dropping down again..haybine eliminated all that and has saved me a great deal of time. I work 40 hours a week and trying to make hay is hard enough when you have only weekends and after work until dark..seems to me it always rains on a weekend or when the sun goes down the dampness shuts you down. I do appreciate the haybine over a sickle mower. This is just my opinion on what is best for me. You finnd what you need and it will work for you, good luck and Merry Christmas...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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JC

12-23-2003 23:47:52




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 Re: Hay Mower Rake Questions in reply to Bill, 12-23-2003 09:48:44  
I am in the minority, but.... My 2 cents worth anyway..... .
I think any well designed machine, properly maintained and adjusted will work just fine for you.
First the mower. I prefer the old sickle mowers, not only that, mowers with a pitman stick to boot!
Sickle mowers are much higher maintainance, but if you only have a few acres that will not be too much of an issue. A good sickle mower will knock down your hay just fine, initial cost is much less. Just make sure it is properly adjusted and the ledger plates and knife is sharp. I like pitman style mowers as they are a safeguard. They break instead of the mower. I make up 10 at a time for $2.75 per pitman stick. I can go 2-3 years on 10 of them.

I have used haybines as well as the disc mowers, just personal preference, I will stay with my old mowers.
As far as the rake is concerned, if you are putting up bales, I would use a bar rake. Again, much higher maintainance, but you will get better windrows, which will mean much easier baling. Wheel rakes are ok, I just think they don't tie the hay together as well as a bar rake.

If you end up with a bar rake, make sure you grease it, keep it properly adjusted, especially the height and don't run it at excessive speeds and you won't have too much trouble. Make sure you check the gear box oil level daily is a good plan. Too many people neglect this.

My main advice is to be comfortable with your choices and get to know your machinery. Afterall, at harvest time, your impliments are your best friends!

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ChrisL

12-23-2003 16:12:46




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 Re: Hay Mower Rake Questions in reply to Bill, 12-23-2003 09:48:44  
i hate wheel rakes and they still take teeh - lots ofthem sometimes



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kyhayman

12-23-2003 11:05:11




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 Re: Hay Mower Rake Questions in reply to Bill, 12-23-2003 09:48:44  
Just a personal choice but I wouldn't even consider a sickle mower. I'd prefer a disc mower over a drum mower but for small acreages the drum mower will be more cost effective. Now for rakes, I've had wheel rakes and HATED them. An in line might be ok but the V rakes were nothing but aggervation.

Especially on the mower, make sure you get one from a local dealer that will have parts support. Several folks around here have gotten one from a used equipment jockey who happens to carry one of these short lines in new stuff, but he doesnt stock any parts.

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old

12-23-2003 10:59:15




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 Re: Hay Mower Rake Questions in reply to Bill, 12-23-2003 09:48:44  
I use a big wheel rake to works well for me and I picked up a NH 460 mower conditioner for $500 a couple years ago. If you watch you can get some good buys it just takes a little looking



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