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HAY QUESTION

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RandyNcal

12-18-2003 13:43:38




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I WILL BE CUTTING 8 ACRES HAY WITH 8N FORD, WAS TOLD BY NEIGHBOR I COULD DO IT WITH MY BRUSH HOG, BUT LOOKING AT ARCHIVES IT WOULD BE BETTER TO FIND 501 SICKLEBAR MOWER FOR BETTER QUALITY AND BETTER YIELD, IS THIS CORRECT, I WANT SOME FOR MY HORSES-COWS AND SOME FOR SELL TO HOBBY HORSE FARMS. CAN YOU HELP ME OUT I AM IN ARKY AND NEED GOOD ADVISE!!!




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jeff in norcal

12-20-2003 23:48:30




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 Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 13:43:38  
am i correct in assuming by your name that you are in northern california? I am located in santa rosa, 50 miles north of golden gate and have all the equipment to cut yor hay if your closeby. lemme kno! jeff.



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RandyNcal

12-18-2003 21:05:15




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 Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 13:43:38  
thanks guys, sounds like yall know what your talkin about. Maybe I should work out a deal with one of the neighbors to cut and bale my hay on shares, and I will buy some attachments for working the other five acres for truck crops? I have seen in the archives some guys do pretty good with sweet corn and such. There is a large swap meet/flea market every Saturday only five miles down the road from me what yall think ?

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paul

12-19-2003 08:57:59




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 Re: Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 21:05:15  
It would probably be good to observe the hay process for a year or two, see how it works. Then you will know much better what you want to buy, should you want to make it yourself.

Farming is best learned hands-on, watching others.

The truck crops will be a real learning experience also. :) Weeds are a real killer, takes a lot of time or herbicides to make a good crop.

--->Paul



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Glenn in PA

12-18-2003 20:22:53




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 Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 13:43:38  
We used a 501 sickle with an 8N the entire time I was growing up. Nice setup if you have enough time for it to dry. Tough to run the baler on an 8N. We put up loose with a rack and old-fashioned hay loader. Lot's of work..... I would personally stay away from the brush hog.....



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Rob

12-18-2003 19:41:42




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 Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 13:43:38  
You have been misadvised my friend.You cannot mow hay with a brushog.Find a sickle mower



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Bob

12-18-2003 18:28:56




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 Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 13:43:38  
I use a Ford 501 in my fields but this fall my
neighbor used a bush hog on a field of his. I than raked and baled the hay,it baled good
and I believe it is good hay,soooo



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Gary in TX

12-18-2003 18:20:22




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 Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 13:43:38  
Randy,
A good choice for a sickle mower would be a New Holland 450. It has a pitmanless drive and is a real good mower. Problem with mowing hay with a bush hog type mower is you chop the living daylights out of it. Sickle mowers will cut it off once an lay it down. Would you rather have a 3pt or drag type sickle mower? A new holland 455 is the drag type version of the 450. A John Deere 350 (3pt) or 450 drag type would also be a good choice. I've never used a 501 Ford but I have had 2 450 New Hollands and have a friend who has a 350 Deere, all these being 3pt mowers. Just some thoughts.

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RayP(MI)

12-18-2003 17:18:13




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 Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 13:43:38  
If you check the archives on the various boards here, you'll probably find numerous answers to your question. There are some who will tell you that they get good hay with a rotary mower (brushhog, or similar), especially if there is a side opening for the hay to discharge. My experience is that you'll get a much better cut, more hay, and better hay with some sort of sickle bar machine. If you can get one that conditions in the same pass, it would be advantageous. Some of these, along with some of the newer designs, (drum mowers) may be too much mower for your tractor however.

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Bob

12-18-2003 16:52:21




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 Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 13:43:38  
Randy, unless you've got some really good hay your not going to get much to sell unless you have (a) horse & (a) cow so you'd better be as efficent as you can be. Do yourself a favor and buy at the very least a sickle bar mower. Watch local auctions and you can pick one up for 3-600 bucks. Be sure you check it good before you buy unless you get it really cheap and don't mind spending some time & money. Remember a cow will put away about 1500 lb. of hay through the winter. Good luck..... .

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old

12-18-2003 14:10:50




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 Re: HAY QUESTION in reply to RandyNcal, 12-18-2003 13:43:38  
If your going to bale it no a brush will not do well, you need a sickle mower or mower conditioner



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