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Set-up for plowing - tractor (newbie)

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G. Doyle

12-17-2003 12:26:04




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Hello. I've really appreciated all the discussion found here on plow setup. I've learned a lot already. I have a question I haven't found addressed yet though and wonder if I can get some help here.

I've got a JD 4600, that 'till now has been used only for bushhogging and grounds maintenance, but I want to start plowing around 10-12 acres a year. It's about 43hp. and I was figuring on getting a 3pt 2x14 plow. I figured on a 3pt. so I could back up close to fences and plow closer to the edges, and 2x14 so as not to press too close to the hp limits.

The issue for me now though is tractor wheel spacing. My tractor's rear tires can be set for seven different spacings (and I believe the front axle will adjust to track within the tread of most if not all the rear's tread options). How does one determine the optimum spread to choose?

It seems that if the spread is small the tractor might be less stable, but if the spread is too wide, the plow must be shifted so far to one side of center that there would be a great power loss and too powerful a tendency to turn the tractor.

I suppose too that there is a limit to how far to one side the plow can be mounted and therefore the point of the leading plow might not even reach the furrow if the tires are set too wide.

My tractor's rear tread options allow for the following spaces BETWEEN the rear tires:

38" <--current spread
42"
46"
50"
54"
58"
62"

Now it seems to me that with a 2x14 plow, cutting a 28" wide path, offset to cut up to the furrow, itself will be set off center. Wider tire spacings require even more offset. How far off center can a plow be set? If I go ahead and set the gap at 50" to allow for cultivating 36" rows, for example, will I be able to plow with that spread as well?

Thanks again for any help. Comments on my choice of plow are welcome as well.

G.Doyle

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JMS/MN

12-20-2003 15:15:35




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 Re: Set-up for plowing - tractor (newbie) in reply to G. Doyle, 12-17-2003 12:26:04  
The centerline of the tractor should line up with the line of draft of the plow. Line of draft of any plow is 1/4 bottom width to the left of center of the plow. Adjust your rear wheels accordingly, so that the furrow wheel runs in the furrow, near the left edge. And preferably, the left tractor wheel is the same distance from the tractor centerline.



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Leroy

12-19-2003 18:20:36




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 Re: Set-up for plowing - tractor (newbie) in reply to G. Doyle, 12-17-2003 12:26:04  
A lot depends on the make of the plow, A lot of the small 2 bottom plows were designed for the wheel tread of a Ford N series or NAA or Ferguson 20/30/35 series that plowed with a 52" wheel tread but some of the others were designed for a wheel tread of 56" or 60" as that was as narrow as the tractors would go so the first step would be after you find a plow find out what model tractor it was made for and then check what wheel tread was used and the measurement to use is wheel tread that is center of tire to center of oposite tire, not space between tires

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treeboy

12-18-2003 14:07:53




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 Re: Set-up for plowing - tractor (newbie) in reply to G. Doyle, 12-17-2003 12:26:04  
GD,w/43 hp i'm thinking a 3 bottom plow is in order, poss. a 3-16...i pull a 2-16 w/ jubilee & my tires stay in the narrow postion.. your right tire will probably stay in & you can move the left side out if necessary (to get the correct slope on tractor so plow is level w/earth) do you have wheel weighs or fulid? this may be your next problem.. ps go watch some farmer plow



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paul

12-17-2003 16:43:54




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 Re: Set-up for plowing - tractor (newbie) in reply to G. Doyle, 12-17-2003 12:26:04  
You are certainly on the right track with your thoughts.

The best bet is to hook it up & try it, make adjustments as you go. We probably can't give you a real number that will mean anything - exactly. It's trial & error.

I mostly use bigger 2-point type plows, but I've found running that right wheel in close to the tractor often is best.

Many different adjustments with the wheel spacing & plow hitch are possible, but I bet having the wheel in closer will work better - probably most of the time.

Worrying about stability is always a good saftey trait, but when plowing, the tractor needs a lot of power on the ground, and you will probably run out of grip long before you tip. On my big tractor the lean does freak my wife out, & I need to plow the worse hills - but we are far, far from being in a dangerous place. Could be an issue with a narrow compact tho.

--->Paul

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Hugh MacKay

12-17-2003 15:45:34




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 Re: Set-up for plowing - tractor (newbie) in reply to G. Doyle, 12-17-2003 12:26:04  
G. Doyle: There is a chart for tire tread settings for various plows. The chart covers number of bottoms as well as width of cut per bottom. I have one but can't seem to put my hand on it just now. I plow with two 12" bottoms and my tractor is on 52" centers with 9.5 tires so probably 44" between rear tires. My thoughts are with two 14" probably 46" between rear tires 50" wouldn't be too bad but don't go wider than that. Your plow will not pull right. I will do a bit of searching later tonight. Rusty is giving good advice, however not all plow manuals do a good job on this topic.

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rustyfarmall

12-17-2003 15:17:48




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 Re: Set-up for plowing - tractor (newbie) in reply to G. Doyle, 12-17-2003 12:26:04  
The operators manual for your plow will tell you everything you need to know.



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