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smirkey

12-09-2003 06:37:41




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i saw a John Deere 3 bottom roll over plow advertised in the paper. i never used one and was always intrigued with using one especially for our narrow tilled field strips. thinking of using one with the farmall 450 with a 3 point conversion. do you think it will work? anyone know if this JD roll over is good plow? are there models to avoid?




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Tim(nj)

12-11-2003 13:56:37




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 Re: roll over plow in reply to smirkey, 12-09-2003 06:37:41  
JD and Harrell also made 2-way plows that don't need to be flipped. They use a pan-like moldboard and change frame position and bottom angle instead of spinning, so there's only 1 set of bottoms. A lot lighter. However, I've never seen one used, so I don't know how hard they pull or how well they work burying stuff.



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Ed

12-11-2003 09:31:42




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 Re: roll over plow in reply to smirkey, 12-09-2003 06:37:41  
Your tractor might be a little on the light side for a 3 bottom rollover. Common sizes are 16" and 18" bottoms with 12" bottoms rare. I pull a IH 3-16" rollover with a IH 686 (70 pto hp) (1,000 lbs on the front) that has a simulat frame to your 450 but much heaver. It's about a perfect match.

You'll probably have to unbolt the last bottom converting it into a 2 bottom rollover if you can.



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Allan

12-09-2003 13:02:16




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 Re: roll over plow in reply to smirkey, 12-09-2003 06:37:41  
Smirkey,

I hope I don't get a trainload of hate mail on this, but I think after you use that spinner for one round, you'll never go back. They just plain make better sense.

When she is in the ground, it should be running level; that third point should just be floating along. Figure 8 your turns and spin at the same time, and you will spend far more time plowing than running across that headland.

The easiest I ever pulled was a Massey.

Just my opinion,

Allan

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Fred Wignall

08-30-2006 21:14:50




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 Re: Re: roll over plow in reply to Allan, 12-09-2003 13:02:16  
Sir, I am in desperate need to locate an Allis-Chalmers 3 bottom roll-over plow. I have a 200 Allis tractor that is itching to get started. Would you by any chance know of or where I might purchase on of these plowws in good shape do you?. I think you have a great idea on the figure 8`s. Finders fee or other would accompany a location. Thank`s. Fred.



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Dan

12-09-2003 07:15:15




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 Re: roll over plow in reply to smirkey, 12-09-2003 06:37:41  
In our area most people use rollover plows. There are different models of JD rollover plows that worked differently. You will need an auxiliary remote hookup in addition to the 3 point. I think with most plows, they work fine as long as they are in decent shape and adjusted right. The rollover is heavier and probably will require front weight on your 450.



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