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Delbert

12-08-2003 17:17:07




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Does anyone use a new holland bale wagon anymore? Or have they gone to big bales and accumlators for small square and use the loader on their tractors. Just wondering how things have changed in the last 30 years.




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Flurette Farm

12-09-2003 21:53:47




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 Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Delbert, 12-08-2003 17:17:07  
Delbert, I use a NH 1012 bale wagon which will pick up 54 bales. It also has a self contained hydraulic system that runs off your pto. Limited size causes more trips to the barn but its easy to handle since it has a single rear axel and doesn't require a heavy tractor to handle.
It will also tip up and clear inside my barn where the larger ones won't. For me this is very important. I can also unload outside the barn and use my Farmhand bale forks on the stack as they won't be on edge and the bale fork is designed for a flat 8 pack.
I also use a Farmhand 8 bale accumulator when working away from the barn. This allows using the forks for loading on wagons or truck for moving to the barn. I have 2 sets of forks so I can leave one at the offloading point and 1 in the field. Using either I can bale and get in the barn 600+ bales a day myself without help which doesn't exist anyway. Good luck on what ever you choose..... ....

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Gary in TX

12-09-2003 21:11:55




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 Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Delbert, 12-08-2003 17:17:07  
I don't have one but would like to look into getting one in the not too distant future. I did want to touch base on one of the other statements on the posts. That is getting kids to work, Your right, if it doesn't require pushing buttons your basically screwed. I hate to say this but I do believe it is the fault of parents not making kids earn their keep. I had a couple of step kids for a short time and I know how my ex didn't make her kids do hardly anything and I might as well have not even been there, it was one of those marriages, she just wanted to be with someone long enough to get into a house. Video games, sports, and playing dominated everything, don't get me wrong now I think those things are important too but they shouldn't take the main role. Also, kids and their cars. I know kids under 18 that are driving brand new cars and trucks and I am 39 and too this day I have not had a brand new one. I'm not meaning to grip, I could have had a new one but I can't see the sense in paying that kind a price for a truck. We definatly have some things in this country that need to be changed. I"m lookin around and I'm seeing too much insanity out there, lets get our common sense back, teach kids how to earn their keep and actually be able to work on a car or truck. It ain't gonna hurt em to sweat or get greasy. Might just do them a world of good.
If they get out of line, yep they need to have their butts set on fire with a paddle or switch. In my opinion its more child abuse(that is if thats what you want to call disipline) to not put them in their place. I don't think it hurt any of us. Sorry to get on a soap box, yall have a great day!

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Kelly C

12-10-2003 05:27:01




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 Re: Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Gary in TX, 12-09-2003 21:11:55  
I agree Gary.
Its not just Farming jobs. I hire for the company I work for. Its out side work all weather. and its hard work. The biggest thing is showing up and being there when needed. If I have a guy who cant show up there is big big problems.
Good luck finding any one under 25 who will work.
Lots to take a job but not many who work.
I have a few who do. I protect them like a mother hen. Dont be messing with my guys.

Oh by the way if you guys know any body needing a job and is willing to work. We are hireing again for the central MN, Mpls, St Paul and some south MN areas.
Under Ground utility locating. paint and flag burried cables, Gas , electric ect.

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Gary in TX

12-10-2003 06:25:28




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 Re: Re: Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Kelly C, 12-10-2003 05:27:01  
I know, its everywhere. I was one of the night stockers at Kmart before the company shut our store down and we would see the same thing at night. I'm lookin around at the world around me right now and all I can see is insanity and alot of just plain stupid people. I thought the school system was supposed to teach kids these days? I doubt if many would know which end of a hammer to use? I think this is something that should be taken seriously across the whole country and the eyes of who are letting these kids slid like this should be opened. It ain't gonna hurt em if they can't play game boy for awile.

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kyhayman

12-09-2003 16:44:17




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 Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Delbert, 12-08-2003 17:17:07  
Yes, really catching on around here. I had the 3rd one that I know of in the 3 counties I farm in. Now about 2 dozen. Most are 1033's and 1034's (mid 70's). The new model pull types are very similar to the 1034's. Seeing a few accumulators but most folks have still been using hand labor and getting out when they couldn't find it.



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Mike in Md

12-09-2003 14:53:43




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 Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Delbert, 12-08-2003 17:17:07  
We run 2,a 1049 super and a 1069. We went to these when we couldn't get help to load and unload wagons. Kids around here don't want to work uless they can sit on their a## and push buttons. We have a large shed and can put 10-11000 bales in it without laying a hand on any of them. After that we stack by hand on top until the shed is full. Beats having hired help,they don't call in sick,don't have to leave early for a date,and they are there ready to work every morning.

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Chip S.

12-10-2003 15:53:26




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 Re: Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Mike in Md, 12-09-2003 14:53:43  
I gotta tell you, they must still be old school in Mexico. I got a couple of those boys who work here some and they know what work is all about. Both are here trying to earn enough to go back home and get their father's farm outta hock. I respect that, too.
Can't find an American kid who want's to break a sweat. I've had some walk off after an hour and never see 'em again. Even got so bad I tried to hire the "homeless" for day labor. Found out there's a reason they're homeless.
Learn a little spanish, boys, it pays off.

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Dale in IN

12-09-2003 06:42:44




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 Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Delbert, 12-08-2003 17:17:07  
Yes Delbert I have a NH 1034 bale wagon. I purchased it 3 years ago this month. It is a pull type model and I pull it with a JD 730 Diesel. I have used it the last 2 years. It contains it's own hydraulic system and the PTO of the tractor runs the pump. There are 7 levers that control different valves and all valves have to be in the proper sequence to get it to operate sometimes.
It is a Bear to back into position to unload. Partially because the 730 is very fast in reverse and the hand clutch. And the power steering is not the best at low engine speeds.
It is 10' wide and 18' long and very heavy on the toungue. It will pick 100 to 105 bale per load, depending on how you cross tie them.
We have a 60' * 100' clear span pole barn and we can stack several hundred bales with out having to touch them. The stack will be seven bales high on edge and three bales wide. The loads will stack against each other and the rows will have air space between them which helps for air movement to help moisture move out. If the hay is a little heavy we run an old furnace fan to get greater air movement.
I generally get the baler started and my wife takes over and runs it and I run the wagon and when evening comes I am right on her tail waiting for the last bale to drop out of the baler. If she is not home I drop 300 to 400 on the ground and then run the wagon. Sure beats trying to find help these days.
With this set up we are not dependent on any one.
We have some pictures of it running this fall but I have not got around to posting them.

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Dale, ?? for you.

12-09-2003 19:56:07




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 Re: Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Dale in IN, 12-09-2003 06:42:44  
I'm dreaming about a NH but don't know what models to look at. What weight and hp is that 730 of your's? Similar to a 77 Ollie or do I need bigger?



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Dan Wa

12-08-2003 20:14:38




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 Re: New holland bale wagon in reply to Delbert, 12-08-2003 17:17:07  
In my aea of the country most everyone uses bale wagons. Most hay growers raise timothy hay for export to Japan so they bale wih 3 tie balers, mostly freeman balers. Bale wagons are the big self propelled. There are a few large square balers around, mostly guys who feed their own hay, also a few round balers for guys who feed their hay. The vast majority of hay is sold outside of the area, much ofit is fumigated, recompressed and put in containers, hauled to the coast and loaded on boats for Japan markets.

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