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Jim

12-07-2003 16:20:11

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Winter is here and I am thinking of purchasing a snowblower for my 434 Int. any thoughts on size and brands? whatto watch out for on used units? ect? Thanks in advance
Jim

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12-08-2003 17:51:06

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Re: snow blowers in reply to Jim, 12-07-2003 16:20:11

My brother used an IH ? model snow blower(6.5 or 7ft single auger) on a 434D for many years. The only time it challenged the 434D was when it was heavy wet snow. Now he uses it on a 454D but if it is heavy wet snow he uses the 684. The 454 has 4 reverse gears and the 684 has 8 reverse with TA.

The blowers with solid augers tend to work better in wet slushy snow. The open auger tends to clog.

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Dan in Pa

12-08-2003 17:16:52

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Re: snow blowers in reply to Jim, 12-07-2003 16:20:11

Jim, I agree with with Mike. You don't need lots of hp but you should have live pto and a slow reverse or multiple reverse gears to compensate for lower hp. I have been using a 504 farmall on a 90 inch Lucknow blower and it works great because of the right gears. The Lucknow is one well made blower and I advise you to get the hydraulic chute or you will end up doing a lot of cranking to put the snow where you want it. One problem you might have when blowing snow is the blower gouging or picking up stones on unfrozen surfaces much like a snowblade as these machines are a little heavy. I modified mine by welding 5 by 18 inch runners over the existing ones and turning in or out on the top link of the 3point to regulate how close I want to get to the surface, it works. The blower has cut my snow removal time to less than half. Good luck hope this helps.

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michael Soldan

12-07-2003 19:29:25

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Re: snow blowers in reply to Jim, 12-07-2003 16:20:11

Jim a 6.5 or 7' blower , single auger would work on your 434. There are all kinds of blowers out there, if you are looking used, check the bearings at either end of the auger and check the blower fan bearing,the chain that drives the auger should be snug and ther should be adjustment left on the chain tightener. Th gear box shouldn't show signns of leaking around it and when you turn the pto shaft in your hand there should be no play when yoy rock it back and forth. The shute should move freely via the crank and finally it shouldn't be rusted up inside the shute, snow moves through it much easier if it is a shiny painted surface...not that rust should deter your choice, you can always clean a blower up with sanding disks and give it a fresh coat of paint...it will work much better with less snow sticking to it. I have a 7' and use a 584 about 52 horsepower, I've blown snow with an Allis B so you don't need big horse power, lots of rpm's..and operator smarts..if the snow is too deep lift the blower a foot off the ground and make your first pass then go back and get the rest, with live power you can clutch it in deep snow and let the tractor work its way through.....I have a B250 and if I come across a used 6' cheap I will put it on that tractor for my son in law, the little diesels will handle a small blower ok as well, don't let anyone tell you you need a big unit to blow snow, 30-50 hp will run a single auger 6-7' blower..... Mike in Exeter Ontario( I would recommend LUCKNOW blowers or SMYTHE WELDING BLOWERS here in Southern Ontario...don't know where you are...have had a LUCKNOW blower for over twenty five years and have never had to do anything to it but maintenance items and repaint)

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Frank

12-08-2003 08:19:02

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Re: Re: snow blowers in reply to michael Soldan, 12-07-2003 19:29:25

Power = [ Angular Velocity] x [ Torque]

RPM is a measure of the angular velocity, and I agree that this should be relatively large to blow snow well. However, if your power is limited the basic equation above means that the Torque available to move the snow can NOT be large.
This means:
(1) you are taking repeated, small bites with the blower. Low power prevents full capacity use.
(2) you are reducing the load on the blower by backing into the snow VERY slowly.
(3) dealing well with only very light, fluffy snow.
(4) wishing for more power.
(5) all of the above.

Finally, I must note that this is a theoretical answer for me for this winter as I broke my left leg while cutting wood in October. With a full cast still on the leg, I have lots of time to sit and write long responses.

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paul

12-08-2003 11:16:53

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Re: Re: Re: snow blowers in reply to Frank, 12-08-2003 08:19:02

Sorry to hear of your break, but glad to have folks writing good detailed answers. :)

When I shopped for a snowblower, no one would give me a size/ hp / recommendation on size, etc. Too variable on the type of snow, speed, etc. I ended up buying a 7' snow blower & put it behind a 85 hp 7.5' tractor. Lots of power, a bit messy on the size, but am happy with it. Last year I put the same blower on my 27hp tractor with slower/more reverse gears, narrower tractor. Works just as well. The blower has a sticker on it, rated for 30-60 hp tractors. Pretty big range.

Live pto is the biggie for me, if a tractor has that, and slow reverse gears is sure icing on the cake.

--->Paul

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Frank

12-07-2003 17:09:49

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Re: snow blowers in reply to Jim, 12-07-2003 16:20:11

It seems that a lot of the comments about snowblowers and an IH 350 (see Nov. 14 post, now on about page 8) will also apply to you. To have a blower wide enough so your tires are not driving over snow, you might like more power. An under 50 Hp tractor must really have a slow reverse to handle significant snow amounts.

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Dick Davis

12-08-2003 23:13:00

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Re: Re: snow blowers in reply to Frank, 12-07-2003 17:09:49

Got a friend who mounted his blower on a Farmall 300 front loader. Made an underbelly shaft with reverser, really a sweet deal, lots of gear choices going forward, no crick in neck, vary professional looking and efffective mover of snow. My nickel.

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