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3-pt Mounted Sprayer Recommendations

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Bill

12-05-2003 18:44:34




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I would like to buy or make a small sprayer to mount on the back of my tractor's 3 pt hitch, driven by the pto. My goal is to rid some small fields and fence rows of some woody type growth/briars and some undesirable weeds. I would like some type of boom arrangement and a hand held spray nozzle too. My fields are 5 to 7 acres.

My questions are:

Do you folks buy your sprayers or fabricate them?

How large of a tank should I consider? My tractor is 38 pto hp.

I would like to kill the undesirable weeds and brush, leaving the grass unharmed. Any recommendations for the type of spray would be appreciated and it's implications on potential hay later in the season.

Lastly, I do know my weeds, but there is one particular type of weed that grows everywhere in our fields. When I was a kid, we called it a "stick weed"! It grew about chest high, had about a 3/8" stem with half-hand size leaves on it and the whole plant was green. Any idea what this plant might have been called? We use to strip all of the leaves, except for the top, and toss them around like little spears!

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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JMS/MN

12-06-2003 23:06:37




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 Re: 3-pt Mounted Sprayer Recommendations in reply to Bill, 12-05-2003 18:44:34  
Tractor pto hp has no relation to what size tank is appropriate. A 100 gallon tank will hold about 8-900 lbs of mix, and most sprayers run 10-20 gallons per acre output, so you can easily do one of your typical fields with one fill with a 100 gallon tank. If your three-point hitch can safely lift 1000 lbs, a 100 gallon tank will do fine. If you use RUP's= restricted use pesticides- you need to be licensed in most states. Licensing here means passing a written test, and getting recertified every three years. Otherwise- hire it done. Other most important thing in operating a sprayer is calibration. Calibration is simple- set the controls to maintain a given spray pressure- usually about 40 psi, know your boom width, spray a given distance, and determine how many gallons were used out of the spray tank. Simple example: fill the tank with water only, spray one-half mile at a uniform speed, with a boom width of sixteen and a half feet- that equals one acre. Measure how many gallons it takes to refill the tank to the original level- that equals your gallons per acre application rate. A recent question about calibrating mentioned twelve nozzles on the boom- the number of nozzles means nothing about calibration- the important thing is the WIDTH of the boom, no matter how many nozzles there are. Contact local herbicide dealers in regard to which herbicides are appropriate to kill particular weeds. To use a hand wand- install shutoff valves in the system between the pump and the boom, with a T- going to the hand wand. With the wand- remember that you just lost your calibration- unless you can walk at the same speed that you spray- plus, delivery to the wand is likely to be higher than to the boom, so dilute the spray mix. You could develop a separate delivery system, calibrated for a given output to a single nozzle for the fence row sprayer.

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Medfarm

12-07-2003 07:50:40




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 Re: Re: 3-pt Mounted Sprayer Recommendations in reply to JMS/MN, 12-06-2003 23:06:37  
I answered the question in a different post about 12 nozzles and no reference to effective spray width before reading your post. Most 35 to 40 HP tractors are capable of handling a 100 gallon tank on a 3 point hitch. Ray



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paul

12-05-2003 20:51:22




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 Re: 3-pt Mounted Sprayer Recommendations in reply to Bill, 12-05-2003 18:44:34  
I got a 100 gal Demco model years ago with a 20' boom & wand. Was nice to hook up & use it. But, you could build cheaper, if you are handy with that sort of thing. I agree on the plastic tank.

We tend to use 10-20 gallons per acre for good coverage & mixing, Decide on how big you want, 50 gallons would be fine, you probably can use a 100 gallon if you wieght your front end at all.

If you have alfalfa or clover, that is DIFFICULT to find a spray solution to weed problems. If it is all grass hay, then you want a broadleaf spray. Different ones handle different weeds better or worse. The real good ones that really kill off the bad weeds are costly. On the other hand, 2,4D is very cheap & kills or supresses most broadleaves. I'd ask for local advise on what works well for the weeds you have.

Mostly you end up buying 2 gallon jugs of chemicals, and can use as little as 4 oz per acre (up to a quart for the cheaper ones), so you might be shocked at the outlay, esp. if you are only covering a few acres every year.

Some chemicals do require you pass a course & recieve a licence to spray, different states are slightly different on that. And you are liable, if a neighbor has a garden nearby, understand drift & all that. :)

--->Paul

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Dan

12-05-2003 19:55:09




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 Re: 3-pt Mounted Sprayer Recommendations in reply to Bill, 12-05-2003 18:44:34  
As far as sprayers, I use a 100 galon sprayer with wand on a JD 430. It is about 25 horsepower and not heavy on the front. have had no problem with front coming off the ground. If you are spraying a field you will want booms on it, you can buy one with boom or buy one without and add it. If you check with Norther Tool or someone like that you may be able to buy one as cheap as building it. Also check out auctions as they come up there. As far as sprays, I would check with local ag school, or extension office, even spray dealers to see what to use for different things.
Not sure how things work in other states, here in Washington we have to get a pesticide license to buy some sprays. You might check that out. Some farmers here say it is cheaper to hire it done especially if you do it a bit wrong and get overspray and kill the neighbors orchard.

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Tim(nj)

12-05-2003 19:33:59




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 Re: 3-pt Mounted Sprayer Recommendations in reply to Bill, 12-05-2003 18:44:34  
Crossbow is the chemical we use around the pastures to clear out the woody stuff but keep the grass. If you get or make a sprayer, use a poly tank. Some common chemicals (like glyphosate)do not react well with plain steel. Poly cleans easier and you don't need to worry about rust flakes plugging up your strainer, either.



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Dale

12-05-2003 18:58:31




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 Re: 3-pt Mounted Sprayer Recommendations in reply to Bill, 12-05-2003 18:44:34  
On that size tractor I don't think you'll want anything bigger than one of the drum sprayers, that use a 45 gallon drum. Should be lots of them around, either homemade or built by a company. We use a 200 gallon Hardi, but that's on a 115 hp tractor with front weights. Anything more than a drum and I think you won't be able to put enough weight on the front end to keep from tipping the tractor backwards.

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