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Mark

12-02-2003 12:44:59

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I'm going to start growing 4-5 acers of corn for my 5 cows. Is a 1 row corn picer big enogh? Should I buy a corn sheller or take it some where to do? Or should i hire a neibor to Combine it? Or should I just by the corn?

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Kelly C

12-04-2003 21:26:05

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

I talked to my Grandmother. I asked what kins of picker they used. She said " You guys must be lazzy. Dont need no picker for 5 acres of corn. Heck we done 100 acres by hand many times." She said "you just walk down the row Shuck them ears. Then toss them in the wagon. Just make sure you put a board on the other side of the wagon and hit the board with the ears."
Me? I would take the picker. No way I can keep up with Grams. Besides she likes the smell of horse farts. She said "there is nothin better than mowing hay behind a nice smellin team"

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paul

12-05-2003 21:03:50

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Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to Kelly C, 12-04-2003 21:26:05

There are a couple of corn gloves or husking picks hanging in the shop, but I'd go for the picker too! :)

And I prefer the smell of the fresh cut hay, myself. ;)

--->Paul

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steve450

12-03-2003 16:16:59

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

I agree on the wet ground and hills. I pick with a single row 323,and a 656 Farmall w/ weights and fluid and still slide around with a full wagon. We have a few hills to bring the wagons down and you have to be careful!!

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Ron

12-03-2003 12:18:15

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

We were one of the 1st to have a Mounted picker around here( 226, mounted on a Late JD "B" ). Be Careful... Many Men lost Hands in the snapping or Husking rolls... Don't EVER try to clear stalks or fodder, while it is running.... Those rolls will pull you in Before you can let go....

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Mark

12-03-2003 11:58:13

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

I think i'll wait until i do more corn before I buy EQuitment And just buy feed for now

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Delbert

12-03-2003 08:02:51

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

A single row corn picker would do just fine. Would need something like an H farmall or something in that power range to run a picker although they used to run them with with a 2n ford or 8n, b john deere etc.Of course a bigger tractor would work also you know with cab on it. If your corn field is fenced or you could put an electric fence around it the cows would get a lot of good out of the stocks. This would help off set the expense of planting the corn they could graze on that for several days. Beside that it is fun to watch them find an ear of corn in the shuck try top get it out.If it is close by feed your hay out there saves some clean up next spring. Just something to think about. People don,t do this much anymore and i don,t know why. Just have a wonderful day.

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paul

12-03-2003 13:30:41

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Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to Delbert, 12-03-2003 08:02:51

Yup, fun watching them walk the corn rows looking for ears. ;) Unusual year this fall, corn dried down so fast I combined nearly all of it, they don't see as many ears, but they are still getting leaves & husks up here in the forzen tundra.

--->Paul

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Delbert

12-03-2003 12:20:23

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Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to Delbert, 12-03-2003 08:02:51

Another coment, you might plant that 4 or 5 acres to say hybrid sudan grass or pearl millet and bale it for cows. They love this stuff. Just watch for nitrate posioning in sudan won,t have this problem with pearl millet. Plant either one with grain drill.

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rem

12-03-2003 04:37:38

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

I'd buy a NI 323

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leland

12-02-2003 20:43:01

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

I agree with what paul said but if you are going to buy a picker for just five or ten acres then I would get a one row. the fun lasts longer it takes less horsepower and it will follow any planter width.

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DMH

12-03-2003 06:59:19

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Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to leland, 12-02-2003 20:43:01

What kind of horsepower are we talking about to run these 1 and 2 row pickers?

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paul

12-03-2003 13:38:36

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Re: Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to DMH, 12-03-2003 06:59:19

What kind of hills do we have & how big of a wagon & what gear range?

Dad picked for 2 farms for decades with a mounted picker on an F-20. First was always too slow, second was always too fast, no live pto to clear bunches, and he pulled 100bu brage boxes up & down our hills with that 20 hp tractor - some years better than others.

Went to a pull type & 200bu gravity boxes, and I can do it with the IH 300 or the Super 77 both with live pto & better gear selection, but if it gets slippery or wet I prefer the 85hp 7700 with fluid in all the tires. And, um, the cab....

--->Paul

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Leland

12-03-2003 10:58:23

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Re: Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to DMH, 12-03-2003 06:59:19

To run a corn picker there are several problems to consider the first thing that comes to mind is the land, If the ground is very soft it would take more more weight and horsepower. Having the wagon so far from the tractor makes it pull harder
an 8-n would be doing good run a two row under the best of condtions add wet ground and hills and your done. So depending on condtions the more the better when it comes to horsepower. I would say that a two row and about 45 horsepower would be nicer. If you do have a smaller tractor take care not to overload it.

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leland

12-03-2003 08:23:35

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Re: Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to DMH, 12-03-2003 06:59:19

I agree with you and I wasnt going to put that in there but I have always lived on a farm and most of the people asking questions here are in-experienced and when they move out to the country and buy a tractor they buy a tired old N and try to do everything with it. and I felt that without knowing what they had and if there land was level a one row would be a better bet. Plus with a one row there are a few less moving parts to keep up.

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kyhayman

12-02-2003 18:56:25

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

I agree with Paul (about the 'fun' part). If you WANT to raise corn (my grand dad said he didnt feel like he was farming if he didnt have a corn crop) then a 1 row is fine. I tried raising 5-10 acres of corn to feed calves or to at least make my hay rotations work. Finally figured out that there was no way I could grow corn for even 1/2 what I could buy it for, if I needed it at all. I've been 'corn free' for 4 years. Cows get nothing but good hay, if she can't calve, breed back, and calve again in 12 months while keeping a body condition score of 4 or better on the hay I feed her, she goes to a new home, period. Past few years I have bought pelleted corn gluten ($100.00 per ton, bagged at the co-op) and fed 10# per day with free choice alfalfa round bales to feed my weaned calves. This year I even quit that and have gone to free choice alfalfa baleage and free choice orchard grass and red clover round bales (dont know how it will do but so far so good) gains may go down but b/c of all the rain I've got an extra 500 rolls of baleage.

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paul

12-02-2003 19:47:10

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Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to kyhayman, 12-02-2003 18:56:25

You feed some mineral with that I would presume?

I tend to go high on the grazing & forages, light on the corn as well - drives some of my friends nutz, but then at least I _know_ why they are talking about me. :)

--->Paul

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kyhayman

12-03-2003 03:45:44

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Re: Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to paul, 12-02-2003 19:47:10

Oh yeah, we have a custom mineral dealer/blender here. Everything I get gets free choice minerals, all balanced to forage tests and then tweeked to blood tests from the cows. The blood tests were amazing, found out that my serum copper was too llow so added a copper chelate. I didn't believe much in the chelated minerals but the blood test sure showed me. Best of all, it wasn't the mineral dealer doing the blood work but my vet and the Extension lab.

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Nebraska Cowman

12-02-2003 17:52:07

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

an acre per cow would be one h#ll of a lot of corn. I'd think you could pick it by hand. I have been feeding ear corn to my mother cows; I just drop the ears on the ground 5 or 6 pounds per head and they grind it them selves. Some cows will shell it off and spit the cob out but a lot of them eat cob and all.

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paul

12-02-2003 17:27:00

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Re: Corn picker in reply to Mark, 12-02-2003 12:44:59

Well, money-wise you can just buy 500-1000 bu of corn a year for cheaper than raising it. But, what fun is that? :)

1 row is fine for 5 acres, nothing wrong with a 2 row if you ever expand to 20 or more.

You want a feed mill (grinder or grinder mixer) to grind up the whole ear, cob and all. That is the benifit of ear corn.

If you have it combined, you will need to dry it, and that is _way_ too much money to get into for that little bit of corn.

--->Paul

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DMH

12-03-2003 16:49:05

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Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to paul, 12-02-2003 17:27:00

Now there's an aspect I didn't think of. As long as I am spending ten times more to grow it myself than I can buy it for....why not get an old gleaner and combine it? Just one question:

What do you mean you have to dry it and how is that done?

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Greywolf

12-04-2003 04:28:15

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Re: Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to DMH, 12-03-2003 16:49:05

In order to store corn safely without chance of mold and spoilage, it has to be around 15% moisture.

Most years coming off the combine from the field, it will be in the 18-21% range of moisture. That's an average. This year I harvested corn from 13.2% to 16.7% other years I've taken out 23-27% to beat the weather.

2 different ways of drying. One would be a wet holding bin, continuous flow corn drier and a final storage bin. The other is an in-bin drier that doubles as a dry bin.

More cost with the first system, but you can start drying right away. Second system is usually around a 10,000 bu capacity. You have to have a certain amount of corn in first before you can start the drier to avoid overheating/overdrying. There have been bins set up with the upper 2,000 bu as the drier and the lower 8,000 or so regular bin so you could transfer out as it got full to other bins. I haven't seen any sold in the past years, don't know how efficient they actually were.

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paul

12-04-2003 16:48:50

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to Greywolf, 12-04-2003 04:28:15

Lots of batch driers left out there, can be run by pto if you don't have the 100 or more amps available, sell for $1000 - 4000. Dry 500 bu at a time.

Still hard to justify for less than 100 acres of corn.

--->Paul

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Greywolf

12-04-2003 17:14:25

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Corn picker in reply to paul, 12-04-2003 16:48:50

This is true....not many around here if any have them anymore, not in my immediate area anyway.

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