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Welded needles any good?

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John W.

07-19-1999 06:54:07

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Bought a used NH268 baler. Noticed needles had been welded, but owner said it baled fine. Baled my 10 acres no problem. Last night I went over to help my neighbor with some pretty thick hay. On the second bale one of the needles broke at the weld. Is this a common problem with welded needles, or is my baler acti

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Dan

07-19-1999 09:08:29

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Re: Welded needles any good? in reply to John W., 07-19-1999 06:54:07

We used a Ford 530 with a welded needle(it's been years ago, it might have been brazed) for years with no problem.

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B.C.

07-19-1999 07:46:15

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Re: Welded needles any good? in reply to John W., 07-19-1999 06:54:07

It depends on how well they were welded or brazed.

You might look around for a welder who will make some sort of double groove weld and put it back together while the parts are held aligned in a jig.

Depending on where the break is, and how much room there is around the needle when it's fully extended, it might also be possible to weld in some sort of supplementary support around the break.

It's probably worth looking into, because the last time I priced NH needles, they were asking $200 a pop.

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Jess Davis

07-25-2001 06:44:06

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Re: Re: Welded needles any good? in reply to B.C., 07-19-1999 07:46:15

My baler has run for a while with a welded needle. A friend that borrowed it welded it (since it broke while he was using it) and it took him two tries.

In general, welding castings, forgings, and stuff you don't know about, if you grind a bevel so you get good penetration, pre-heat the area around the weld (with a torch), weld it with 7018 rod, then keep the torch on it for a few minutes so it cools down very slowly, it will work ok.

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paul

07-19-1999 19:49:54

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Re: Re: Welded needles any good? in reply to B.C., 07-19-1999 07:46:15

Yes, our 272 NH baler has been baling for a decade with welded needles, but it depends a lot on the skill of the welder. They added 2 rods to each needle, welded them imto the groove.

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