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JC

11-18-2003 19:36:47




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I let my mind wander back to "the good old days" and thought about the time when the Allis Chalmers small round balers seemed to be everywhere.

I still see them in the weeds occasionally.
Is anyone out there still using these old machines?

The reason I ask, is I am going to buy a spare baler to play around with. I will not buy one if nobody will buy the hay it bales. Is there any market for the small round bales?

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Paul Vance

11-20-2003 23:40:07




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 Re: Strange baler questions in reply to JC, 11-18-2003 19:36:47  
Well,if you area hobby farmer as I am, I see nothing wrong with playing around with the roto baler. However if I had a big meadow or were not planning on using the hay yourself, I would use a big round baler or a square baler unless you knew someone would buy the little round bales.



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Jerry A.

11-20-2003 08:10:03




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 Re: Strange baler questions in reply to JC, 11-18-2003 19:36:47  
Indeed the small round bales were tricky to stack, but if you took your time it could be done. I've stacked many outside with plastic covering and the stacks did just fine. You had to pay close attention as to which end of the bale was slightly larger and stack accordingly.

As far as handling, I'd take a round bale any day over a square bale, simply because you could readily use a hay hook and just one hand to throw the bales around (the small rounds were lighter, generally, than an "average" size square bale). Certainly easier on the hands with a hay hook rather than putting you fingers under that tight twine or wire (Ouch!).

The convenience of the square baler far surpasses the stop and go of the old Rotobaler.

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JW

11-19-2003 14:55:15




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 Re: Strange baler questions in reply to JC, 11-18-2003 19:36:47  
We still use one. Roto bale the last cutting on a field your going to plow up in the spring, and don't use much twine and the cattle will eat them. Believe it or not they clean up one before going to the next. Have been doing that for 35 years. We still use some roto bales for straw, they're okay because you can just kick them and unroll them. But in general, I would MUCH rather have a square baler if I was to only have one baler.

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Big Jim

11-19-2003 11:57:02




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 Re: Strange baler questions in reply to JC, 11-18-2003 19:36:47  
I would have to concur with "d's" analysis of the situation. I also have twenty years of experience with AC roto balers. I think you would find them to be a "PITA" as "d" said. They are very difficult to stack. If you are going to sell hay, I can tell you right now that most truckers will not mess with them. The reason for this, is because time is money and most truckers do not want to spend the best part of a day securing little round bales on their flatbed. If a trucker's load comes loose and falls on a car, THE TRUCKER is liable for damages. Do yourself a favor and buy a good old square baler if you want something to play around with and maybe sell a few bales. My .02 worth.

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Rick

11-19-2003 03:10:54




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 Re: Strange baler questions in reply to JC, 11-18-2003 19:36:47  
JC; I have two very nice ones for sale. Belts are good on one and very nice on other one. I have extra balls of string for them also. They are fun at thresh days but I don't do them as a regulasr otherwise. I do alot of small hay and straw otherwise. But that does'nt mean there not a market somewhere. Rick Let me know as I do want to sell both units



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Kelly C

11-18-2003 20:10:50




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 Re: Strange baler questions in reply to JC, 11-18-2003 19:36:47  
This is just my opinion coming from one whopping year of custom haying and no experience with the rotobaler. So wheigh it accordingly.

So far I have found that there is a market for all hay. Once you get under the customers precieved Ideal type/format for hay. Its then just a matter of price.

Ideal in my market.
Horse= Small square tight bales of timmothy. That has not been rained on. Oh and not one single weed in there.

Cattle = Big round bales of alfalfa. Not rained on.
Needless to say with the way the weather was. The fact that I had to do some crud fields just to get my name out and my foot in the door. I did not have any ideal hay in my barn.
Sold out my last bale yesterday.

So I would say if you feel like Rotobaling. By all means Rotobale away. Just not in the choice Timmothy crop. Roto up some rained on grass.

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d

11-18-2003 19:51:59




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 Re: Strange baler questions in reply to JC, 11-18-2003 19:36:47  
We bought about 1000 straw bales made with one last year, that had been in the mow for 20 years.

You can always tell the farms where they were used because the barn walls in the mows are pushed out. There was no way to stack them so that they wouldn't shift and push out, and they destroyed a lot of barns before their time.

I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. They were a pain to handle because the twine never seemed to cut right on any of the balers and you used to get 5 or 6 bales strung together that you had to cut apart, then you'd just about kill yourself in the mow when they shifted and rolled on you. Then to try to feed them you always have twine rolled into the bale and it takes 4 or 5 times as long to open a round bale as it does a small square.

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Fawteen - You got THAT

11-19-2003 04:42:51




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 Re: Re: Strange baler questions in reply to d, 11-18-2003 19:51:59  
right! Dad baled with a Rotobaler for a lot of years. HATED 'em. Straw for bedding or hay for the feeder, it didn't matter, they were a MASSIVE PITA to deal with. And Dad wouldn't permit any twine in the bedding, so if you missed any, or got ticked and just whacked it open with a pocket knife, you were in for a ride. We didn't even TRY to stack 'em, just let 'em fall off the end of the elevator and land where they may. Made it a pain to get 'em out when the time came.

I was a happy boy the day Dad decided the rotobaler wasn't worth fixing anymore, and hired a guy to come in with a square baler.

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