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d17 and a 4 bottom plow

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New Farmer

11-17-2003 07:24:33




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I have a allis chalmers D17 and have purchased a 4-16 bottom plow. My question is that the tractor is a 54hp and has weights on the back tires will this tractor pull the plow in an old soybean and corn fields? The ground has been worked every year for the last 100 years I am just starting so any info would help. Thanks in advance.




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New Farmer

11-18-2003 10:50:57




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 Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-17-2003 07:24:33  
Thanks for the advice I believe I am going to take one off and run a 3-16's. I am going to take the back moldboard off is that the right one to take off? Also what is the best way to set up the plow for the tractor? This will be a learning experience. If the tractor is to light in the front end how much warning do you have before it starts to go up and over? What gears do you usually run in? Thanks

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JMS/MN

11-18-2003 11:49:58




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 Re: Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-18-2003 10:50:57  
AC made a fully mounted 5-14" plow for the D17, but most ran a 4-16 on light ground and 3-16 on heavy soil. If you take one bottom off, logic would dictate that you take the rear bottom off, otherwise, where would the tractor furrow wheel be if the front bottom were removed, and the front bottom was cutting against the previous furrow? Normal plowing speed is wide open in second or third with the Power Director in forward position- you can pull it back when hitting really tough spots. Try it with four bottoms- adjusted according to the plow operator manual, and remove a bottom if you cannot pull it.

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paul

11-19-2003 09:38:45




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 Re: Re: Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to JMS/MN, 11-18-2003 11:49:58  
In my part of the state you need 20 hp per bottom, sometimes more if you want to plow the alfalfa & end rows. Had a difficult year where a 85+ hp tractor couldn't pull a 4-16.

Others can get by with a lot less hp. I agree I'd try it as is, but expect to take a bottom off.

--->Paul



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Roger C Iowa

11-18-2003 03:06:45




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 Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-17-2003 07:24:33  
Dad had a 1962 D 17 Diesel and a mounted 4-16 Slat bottom. Never had any trouble. Diesel or gas makes a difference. later he bought a D 17 gas and it would not handle it. Roger



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RJ-AZ

11-17-2003 19:21:37




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 Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-17-2003 07:24:33  
I pulled 4-14's with a NEW D-17 with no problem. That is until this old 12 year old got her stuck and spun down to the drawbar. This was an older JD rope trip plow. Dad hooked the OLD DC case onto me and just walked out with it.



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Scott(MO)

11-17-2003 18:54:55




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 Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-17-2003 07:24:33  
Hello, Like the other fellows said "it depends on soil condition". My wifes cousin farmed a lot of ground with a 4 bottom (don't know if 14's or 16's), but the series IV here at the house really can't handle any more than 3-16's. We have a lot of red clay though. Father-in-law had 4-16's on the D19 diesel and it handled it nicely. I believe it's 65 H.P.

Scott



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Tom

11-17-2003 11:41:49




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 Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-17-2003 07:24:33  
Your D17 at 54 PTO HP is a good match for 3 16" bottoms. 4 is too many, if you want to really plow the ground about 8 inches deep and turn it over cleanly. You can take one off of most breaking plows without much trouble. You can pull 3 plows faster, cover the same ground, turn the soil better, pluverize the land better, leave it smoother, and make it easier on your tractor and tires. Been there and done that.

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J Kirsch

11-17-2003 10:30:32




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 Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-17-2003 07:24:33  
I have plowed alfalfa sod (about 40 acres) in clay ground with an AC D17 and a 4 bottom 14" plow. The tractor wasn't loafing and I shifted the torque converter a couple of times each round, but it did the job.



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INCase

11-17-2003 09:52:29




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 Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-17-2003 07:24:33  
a D-17 could handle it depending on soil type (sandy) and how wet, how compacted ect ect. 4-14 for sure. our neighbor had one with 4-14's no problem at all... AC's were'nt known for being a heavy tractor so weights will be a plus. Does your have traction booster?? Since you have both give it a try. If its too hard the traction booster will (maybe?) pull them out of the ground anyway. be careful and Good luck...

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Aaron

11-17-2003 09:50:43




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 Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-17-2003 07:24:33  
It'll be all that tractor wants if it will even pull it at all. I'd say a 3-14's would be a better match for the tractor, having owned and plowed with one before.



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INcase

11-17-2003 09:54:47




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 Re: Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to Aaron, 11-17-2003 09:50:43  
a smaller WD45 will pull 3-14" .... again it depends on the soil.



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Josh

11-17-2003 08:17:15




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 Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to New Farmer, 11-17-2003 07:24:33  
I think 4 will be really tough. Even 3-16" will be tough. I think it might do it with enough weight and a low enough gear though. I think 3-14" might work well in stubble. I use an Oliver 77 (45 hp) with 2-16". It pulls it easily in most conditions, and i think it is a good match.



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kyhayman

11-17-2003 19:24:06




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 Re: Re: d17 and a 4 bottom plow in reply to Josh, 11-17-2003 08:17:15  
No doubt, my dad's tobacco tenant has a D-17 and pulls 2 -16's with it and it is plenty of plow for the tractor.



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