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A HAY Doctor ?????

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Hugh MacKay

11-16-2003 07:59:36




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I question the qualifications of such a person. Across this continant there are so many variations in hay crops, season, climate, soil, etc. no one could claim such status.




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The Doctor of hay

11-17-2003 10:23:59




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 Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-16-2003 07:59:36  
I recomend 2 bags of lime and call me in the morning.



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kyhayman

11-16-2003 17:19:59




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 Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-16-2003 07:59:36  
You make a valid point. One of the things our local Cattlemen's Association does is take a trip, every year to visit a different part of North America. We usually take 30-40 people, fly somewhere, rent vans, and take a week or so visiting rances and farms. One of the most educational things I have ever taken part in. To date I have been on farms and ranches in every state in the lower 48 south and west of (and including) Pennsylvania (my kid was being born the summer we did NY and New England) Plus the western 4 provinces of Canada. Learned a lot, some of it is useless to my business but most every place I picked up something that helps me think outside the box in my local market. I may not 'do it' the way they do in ..... ..... but I can adapt what they do in ..... .... to what I need to do here.

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Rick

11-16-2003 11:25:52




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 Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-16-2003 07:59:36  
Amen to that, bro. I'm an ag writer, and a few years ago had an assignment to prepare a forage guidebook. Even the extension specialists within the same geopgraphic area couldn't agree what ought to be said, and seemed to take keen interest in poking holes in other specialists' advice. Different breed of cats, I guess.

Rick



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Hugh MacKay

11-16-2003 12:38:24




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 Re: Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to Rick, 11-16-2003 11:25:52  
Rick: I guess if the guy had said Hay Machine Dr., it would make a big difference. I take part in Farmall discussion a lot and there are guys like tractor vet, etc. These machine problems will be the same across the continant.

Kim started a crops and what do you use tractor for page. I posted a few times on that forum, but soon lost interest. We have across this vast continant , big differences in soil types, climate, etc. It requires quite an aray of cropping and cultural practices. The very thing that works well one place will not work in another place. Just to give you a minor example. I love green and yellow snap beans. Would sooner have them than a feed of sweet corn. In Nova Scotia where I grew up they were just about pest free crop. Here in SW Ontario they are little more than bug feed. I believe the problem is all the insects in soybeans here. Insects I had never seen before in my life get to eat my garden beans.

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thurlow

11-16-2003 19:25:33




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 Re: Re: Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-16-2003 12:38:24  
Hugh; to follow up on your comment about different insects.....notice the different weeds/grasses we have now? When I was a kid in the late '40s/early 50's, we basically had four problem weeds/grasses in our cotton and corn (which were the primary cash crops in the mid-south).....cockleburr, johnson grass, bermuda grass and crabgrass. If you could control them (all done mechanically), you could pretty much depend on making a decent crop. Beginning with Karmex in the late '50s and through all the other chemicals since, including the now Round-up Ready seed; it's been a long time since any of those 4 weeds have been a problem. But..... we've had sicklepod, showy crotalaria, nutsedge, spurge, copperleaf and many more. Most of us had never heard of any of these 'til the 70s and 80s; don't know where they came from. We now have a few that are chemical resistant..... suppose it's just that Nature indeed abhors a vacuum and when one "goes away", there are others waiting to take their place.....

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Hugh MacKay

11-17-2003 01:45:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to thurlow, 11-16-2003 19:25:33  
Thurlow: Your observation on weeds is quite interesting. I think there is a valid explanation for most of it. When I was farming in Nova Scotia we were starting to see weeds never seen before in Nova Scotia. I just forget the details, but it was either Ag Dept or a University arranged with a long haul trucker who had gone to the west coast and back. He met them at border between NB and NS on way home I forget the exact figure but it was in the hundreds varieties of weed seeds they scraped off that truck, weeds not native to Nova Scotia. On items like weeds, insects and disease is being spread by transportation. We are all importers and exporters. If you notice new weeds in your area first crop up on roadsides and railways. That was the findings in Nova Scotia, and indeed what led them to examin trucks.

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John In Iowa

11-16-2003 08:49:48




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 Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-16-2003 07:59:36  
Oh the joy of haying. Soil test, tracer minerals, and just the right variety just to get it growing. Then weeds, bugs, and disease to fight. Then Mother Nature comes in to play when you cut it. Gee why do I keep on doing hay is beyond me, but I do and I love it.

John In Iowa



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RJ-AZ

11-16-2003 08:25:38




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 Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-16-2003 07:59:36  
HAY now lets not get all tied up in KNOTS over this. I'm going to have to BALE the Hay Doctor out on this. I beleive he is outstanding in his FIELD. As to any of us being a subject matter expert we all get to PITCH in and let our opinions STACK up and be WEIGHED accordingly.



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RJ-AZ

11-16-2003 18:21:40




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 Re: Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to RJ-AZ, 11-16-2003 08:25:38  
Yes we all do it differently. I grew up in SE MT not so long time ago. Has anyone stacked loose hay with a buckrake and overshot stacker. Ever seen a Farmhand double tined dump rake? Fed loose hay with a team of horses pulling a hay sled at 20 below? Broadcast seeded alfalfa with a TSC pto broadcaster on a 8N pulling 20' of harrows folowing behind a steel wheel JD Van Brunt drill drilling oats for a cover crop? Yep it's a big old world out there but aint no need to get a knot hung on the bill hook, might shear a pin!

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bill in colo

11-16-2003 19:16:12




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 Re: Re: Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to RJ-AZ, 11-16-2003 18:21:40  
been there done that except for the broadcast seeding. still a few ranches haying with farmhand F 10's in our area, and a few still feed some with teams if we have snow enough to sled.



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Hugh MacKay

11-16-2003 08:35:55




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 Re: Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to RJ-AZ, 11-16-2003 08:25:38  
RJ: Read just a bit more closely what I said. Your hay Doctor may well be an expert in his geographic area. Reading these discussions over past 4 years, I can tell you there are some vast differences in the way hay is grown, handled, stored, etc. across this continant. I rest my case.



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Leroy

11-16-2003 08:46:46




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 Re: Re: Re: A HAY Doctor ????? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-16-2003 08:35:55  
True, most of the hay mentioned on this board is never heard of in the Ohio- Indiana area



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