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HELP! Bale loader hook-up info needed

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Ron

11-16-2003 07:13:09




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I just purchased a bale loader and I need help figuring out the hook-up on it. I have no idea what brand it is ( all paint and decals are gone), but I can tell you that it is the conveyor type that pulls alongside of the truck or wagon. The original hook-up is gone. I understand that these hooked up at three points, but what were the three points? Since I've never had the chance to see one operate, I don't know. I'm restoring this for actual use and would like to restore it as near as I can to original. Any help (advice, photos, suggestions) would really be appreciated. Just found this site recently and love it. I'll be lurking about for a long time!

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Leroy

11-16-2003 18:30:23




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 Re: HELP! Bale loader hook-up info needed in reply to Ron, 11-16-2003 07:13:09  
Is it an AC that mounted on the left side of the tractor and not on the wagon?



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Ron

11-17-2003 05:36:33




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 Re: Re: HELP! Bale loader hook-up info needed in reply to Leroy, 11-16-2003 18:30:23  
I'm sure it's not a tractor mounted type. The guy I got it from told me that it hooked up to a truck or wagon. He had never used it, but the farmer he got it from told him. If you read my reply to Bernie, you'll see the description of the hook-up points. Thanks for your interest in helping!



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Bernie in MA

11-16-2003 16:48:05




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 Re: HELP! Bale loader hook-up info needed in reply to Ron, 11-16-2003 07:13:09  
Does your coveyor go straight up or on a 45* angle? I have one made in Intercourse, PA that hooks to a hitch on the side of the truck with one pin and takes the bales up on an angle. The pin drops thru a couple plates welded to a 1 1/4 pipe about 6' long that rides up and down in a slot on the side of the loader as the truck goes thru humps and dips.

I haven't used it for years, but when my five girls were young we loaded 180 bales on the truck in 1/2 hr once when a t-storm was coming. The two teens were on the truck with me, my wife was driving, and the three younger ones were lining up the bales. When we finished I was standing on the top of the loader (about 5' over the bed of the truck) throwing the bales over my shoulder to the girls. That was a long time ago. I go for a knee replacement next month.

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Ron

11-16-2003 17:17:53




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 Re: Re: HELP! Bale loader hook-up info needed in reply to Bernie in MA, 11-16-2003 16:48:05  
Thanks Bernie. Mine is the 45 degree like yours. Only mine seems to have three places for a hook-up. From what I can see, the attachment points are still on the loader, but nothing hooked to them. There is one about three feet back from the front and about two feet off the ground, that has a place for two attachments. Looks like one is supposed to go forward (maybe like what you described) and one would go to the side. There is a pivot on the one to the side. Then another attachment point is at the rear of the frame about three feet above the ground. It is just a half steel ring welded on. These all look like original attachments to me. What you described makes sense, but what would keep the loader from running into the wagon or out from the wagon when you are making a turn? Also, does it hook to the back of the truck via a bent tongue, or do you need to attach something to the truck for it to hook to, like at the side of the bumper? Willing to listen to any advice! I have all winter to get it ready for spring, but would like to lay a few bales out and do a test run before then to work out any bugs. Thanks for your time! Ron

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Bernie

11-17-2003 17:43:56




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 Re: Re: Re: HELP! Bale loader hook-up info needed in reply to Ron, 11-16-2003 17:17:53  
Hi Ron. The pin placement on the pipe was on the truck side of the pipe so that the pin was under the edge of the truck bed. I welded a plate with a hole in it to the bottom of the first bunk, extending to the back about 6". I had to make a short pin so it would fit in there. My truck bed was 18' long with the extension on for haying. Turning didn't present a problem, probably because the loader wheel happened to end up beside the truck wheel, rubbing with the same rotation. Purely an accident. Turning to the left, as I remember, didn't make the loader move away enough to cause a problem. Mine has castors on the front with rollers with "spikes" or nubs on the sides to help the bales slide in. I found it saved in the long run to merge two or three of the baled windrows into one, even if the kids weren't available. Don't get the bales too close together as the loader will push them ahead a little before the conveyor starts them up. My loader is about 8-10' long from the hitch pin to the wheels, so if yours is longer it might explain the other hitch points. Bernie

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Ron

11-18-2003 07:02:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: HELP! Bale loader hook-up info nee in reply to Bernie, 11-17-2003 17:43:56  
Hi Bernie, Thanks for all your help with this. Mine has steel skids on the front instead of any kind of wheels. There is a double chain at the bottom with 1" wide by 2" high "V" shaped spikes to grab the bales. This changes to a single chain of the same design after about two feet running up the center. I'm starting to get the idea of what I need to do now. Sure wish I had an idea of what brand this is so I could try to restore it to its' original condition, but I'm pretty sure I can manufacture what I need to make it work. Just have to do some trial and error till I get it right. We plan to use it with two different trailers and make it useable for two different pick-ups. Trying to decide now whether to make the hook-up on the trailers, or on the trucks. I'm considering making an extended tongue on the loader with a double bend in it and hooking to the bumper, so it will trail from behind the pick-up and beside the trailer. Then make the side attachment on the trailers so it can be adjusted for the different width trailers. Does this make any sense to you? Like I said, trial and error till I get it right. Any more advice from you or anyone will be most welcome. Oh by the way, I had knee surgery on my left about two and half years ago and will most likely be in for my right this winter. So you can see why I want to get this figured out soon. Appreciate your help! Ron

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