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jeff

11-15-2003 18:55:24




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I was curious, about how many bales can an acre yield? I have a hayliner that makes standard bales. I am preparing the seed bed and intend to plant some rye grass hay, the dealer said the sacks cover 2 acres. I have 12 acres to plant. so, i'm wondering if anybody has a formula for what king of yield(bale wise) I could expect. thankyou much.




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jason

11-16-2003 14:24:06




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 Re: hay dr. questions in reply to jeff, 11-15-2003 18:55:24  
take a look at your states ag college web site. Extendtion service should have a fact sheet on hay production. Then call your local NRCS agent and see what limits your soil has i.e fragipans ect..



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Paul Janke

11-16-2003 06:30:23




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 Re: hay dr. questions in reply to jeff, 11-15-2003 18:55:24  
What about the weight per bale? Dad always figured the hay we bought should be at least 80 lb bales. They were tight. My sister-in-law bought bales which couldn't have been over 40 lb. To me, those were loose hay with strings around it.



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Indydirtfarmer

11-16-2003 04:37:03




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 Re: hay dr. questions in reply to jeff, 11-15-2003 18:55:24  
Results vary. Kyhayman had some very impressive numbers. He is "qualified" to achieve those results. More typically, you'll get less yield per acre. I do a good bit of custom baling. (When I have time) I have baled some fields that are no more than "trash" grass. They netted less than 40 bales per acre. Good grass usually gets from 60 to 100 bales. Quite a variation! I have had some of my fields (grass) get as much as 145 bales, under "ideal" conditions. Alfalfa (Well fertilized, solid stands) will get significantly better "counts". The best I've ever got off of one of mine, is 185 bales. Lime was mentioned. You will see great returns in our area, when you apply enough lime. With fertilizer and lime, your "return" will improve with your "investment". I bale 4'x5' round bales. My "ratio" seems to be roughly 22 to 1, as far as square to round. That is with a tight round bale. Hope this helps, John

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jeff

11-20-2003 23:49:51




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 Re: Re: hay dr. questions in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 11-16-2003 04:37:03  
Thanx Mr. Inydirtfarmer, that is the information I was looking to find, it gives me a starting point. thanx again, jeff.



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Hugh MacKay

11-15-2003 23:54:43




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 Re: hay dr. questions in reply to jeff, 11-15-2003 18:55:24  
Jeff: The smart guys gave you the answers with all the variables added.



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Gary in TX

11-15-2003 20:44:55




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 Re: hay dr. questions in reply to jeff, 11-15-2003 18:55:24  
I have always heard 40 to 50 bales per acre. I will vary as to what type hay your in. I do mostly round baling but do some squares as well. I run a Deere 346 wire tie baler. I like to use a rule of thumb type estimate of average 2 rolls per acre which would equal to about 50 squares or 25 squares per roll. I hope to do alot more squaring next season as I have fell into some places this year to do for next year.

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kyhayman

11-15-2003 20:28:25




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 Re: hay dr. questions in reply to jeff, 11-15-2003 18:55:24  
Here in central KY with a top notch fertilizer and lime program I get (on avg) 300 per acre alfalfa (total on 6 cuttings, but almost always I have to roll and wrap some), 160 on timothy (1 cutting), and 130 on orchardgrass (plus 45 second cutting). Ryegrass would be lower than the orchard grass here, but not by much.

Bet I ever did in a single cutting was 205 per acre in good timothy 5 years ago. Perfect conditions and the N (300# ammonium nitrate per acre) was on just right for the season.

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paul

11-15-2003 20:08:08




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 Re: hay dr. questions in reply to jeff, 11-15-2003 18:55:24  
How far north are you?

How good is your fertilizer & lime(if needed in your area) program?

How much rainfall do you get normally?

No way to know without those answers.

Then, any particular year, you can get a lot of hay in a wet year but hard to make it so it keeps & has value, and get almost nothing in a drought year, so I'm sure you know you are looking at a relative average, which won't mean so much any one year.

Nice to get 100 bales a cutting, dwindling to 50-60 the last cutting around here - but that would be more than an average year.

--->Paul

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jeff

11-20-2003 23:57:29




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 Re: Re: hay dr. questions in reply to paul, 11-15-2003 20:08:08  
I'm located in northern ca. wine co. 60 miles north of goden gate. we get 35 inchs of rain, and man i've gotten some good reply's. i think i should contact the farm bureu. also, what does he mean when referring to lime and fertilizer "program"? thanx to all, jeff.



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Dave H

11-15-2003 19:34:12




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 Re: hay dr. questions in reply to jeff, 11-15-2003 18:55:24  
I won't pretend to be an expert, but that is going to depend on field condition, weather, which cutting, and other things I haven't thought of. I'll be interested to watch this post and see what is said because no one has ever answered that question for me.



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red-n-green

11-15-2003 19:34:05




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 Re: hay dr. questions in reply to jeff, 11-15-2003 18:55:24  
So many variables come into play when considering yeild of a field. What type of hay, how often you cut, soil nutrients, temp, rainfall, location, etc. How it is seeded will also be a factor. By this I mean how many seeds per acre as well as how the bed is prepared. If you want to get better yeild, make sure to do soil tests and apply the correct amount of fert. Cut the hay at the optimum time for quality instead of quantity and you will come out better in my opinion if you are wanting to sell this hay. I raise bermuda, so I can't really comment on how much volume the rye should produce. On an ideal year, my bermuda will average 80 to 85 square bales an acre 4 or 5 times a year. But this is all determined by the growing conditions.

Jay

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